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Toronto dont need hanifin and hanifin is not a 6 million defenseman

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Publié: 4 déc. 2023 à 7 h 33
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 136/192 (71%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hanifin, NoahFlames de CalgaryLNH50%1 753 125 $011---245712--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Abruzzese, NickExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Steeves, AlexExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Hildeby, DennisExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011-------00
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial10 359 263 $2045643710
Variation1 753 125 $-122000
Final12 112 388 $ (↑)19 (↓)47 (↑)66 (↑)3710-5-7-12

Logo de Maple Leafs de TorontoMaple Leafs de Toronto

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Abruzzese, NickExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Steeves, AlexExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Hildeby, DennisExempté du ballottageMaple Leafs de TorontoMineures-0 $011-------00
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Hanifin, NoahFlames de CalgaryLNH50%1 753 125 $011---245712--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial30 000 000 $2047632315
Variation-1 753 125 $1-2-2000
Final28 246 875 $ (↓)21 (↑)45 (↓)61 (↓)23155712
4 déc. 2023 à 9 h 13
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The Leafs would benefit from any top 4 caliber defensemen rn
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4 déc. 2023 à 10 h 18
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Correct Hanifin isn't a 6 million defenseman, he's comparable to Morgan Rielly. Hanifin has been better defensively and just like Rielly though not a shrinking violet he isn't as physical as you'd like him to be considering his size. Hard to say about offensively unless/until they play on the same team.

It's likely the only significant difference between the two has been systems and coaching. Put them on the same team and they're probably about equal across the board. Big skilled defensemen who could be elite / near elite if they used their size better to be more physical, hit harder, pushback more and get into the occasional fight. As it is now neither one throws their weight around or intimidates anyone, nobody is worried about going into the corner with them.
4 déc. 2023 à 10 h 52
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I am ok with the Leafs not improving areas of weakness - this works for the entire Eastern conference lol.
4 déc. 2023 à 10 h 53
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Correct Hanifin isn't a 6 million defenseman, he's comparable to Morgan Rielly. Hanifin has been better defensively and just like Rielly though not a shrinking violet he isn't as physical as you'd like him to be considering his size. Hard to say about offensively unless/until they play on the same team.

It's likely the only significant difference between the two has been systems and coaching. Put them on the same team and they're probably about equal across the board. Big skilled defensemen who could be elite / near elite if they used their size better to be more physical, hit harder, pushback more and get into the occasional fight. As it is now neither one throws their weight around or intimidates anyone, nobody is worried about going into the corner with them.


He's not comparable to Rielly in the sense that he can't carry the workload that Rielly carries...

But he'd be a welcomed addition to the blue line and would help a lot
4 déc. 2023 à 10 h 56
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He's not comparable to Rielly in the sense that he can't carry the workload that Rielly carries..


Sure he can. He plays big minutes in all situations.
4 déc. 2023 à 11 h 1
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Sure he can. He plays big minutes in all situations.


But not 5th in the league in ice time minutes
4 déc. 2023 à 11 h 51
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But not 5th in the league in ice time minutes


Again that probably has more to do with coaching and systems than anything. Well that and the fact the Leafs don't have anyone else as good as Hanifin or Reilly or even close. Calgary on the other hand has Andersson, Weegar and Tanev.
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Again that probably has more to do with coaching and systems than anything. Well that and the fact the Leafs don't have anyone else as good as Hanifin or Reilly or even close. Calgary on the other hand has Andersson, Weegar and Tanev.


No, it has to do more with the Leafs having nobody else who can carry Rielly minutes...

That's why Hanifin would help so much...

Rielly would go from 25+ minutes to 22-23 minutes which will help him a lot
4 déc. 2023 à 12 h 46
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No, it has to do more with the Leafs having nobody else who can carry Rielly minutes...

That's why Hanifin would help so much...

Rielly would go from 25+ minutes to 22-23 minutes which will help him a lot


And Hanifin sometimes plays 25+ minutes too. The difference is he doesn't have to do it all the time because the Flames have multiple good defensemen who can play big minutes. Andersson, Hanifin, Weegar and Tanev all can and have done it.
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And Hanifin sometimes plays 25+ minutes too. The difference is he doesn't have to do it all the time because the Flames have multiple good defensemen who can play big minutes. Andersson, Hanifin, Weegar and Tanev all can and have done it.


Overall, Leafs can benefit from Hanifin
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4 déc. 2023 à 13 h 55
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Overpay from the Leafs side of things. Take out Hildeby and its a deal. If you want him, Hannifin needs to come with a friendly contract already signed. Otherwise its just throwing assets away on an overpriced rental.
 
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