I think a 1st is definitely possible…but I wouldn’t go with just picks. How is this for a “hockey trade”?

Walman for Frost

I think if Wings want a young center…that could be interesting. Others maybe…Hayton, Dach, Turcotte…in that range depending on your taste.

Nope. Red Wings will keep the defenseman who has great chemistry with Seider playing on a bargain contract.

I see no need to trade him as he sticks with Seider and ASP and Evidsson make up your 2nd pair. That leaves Maata, Charoit, Holl and Petry for the next 1 and 2 years.

I could definitely see something along the lines of the Muzzin deal to Toronto for him.

I've been thinking about this as well.

Until Edvinsson proves he belongs on the top pair in the NHL, I don't see Yzerman moving Walman. But IF Edvinsson can do that it would probably be a smart move to trade Walman - I don't think we should trade Walman for just futures tho. The Red Wings already have a lot of quantity in the organization, Yzerman should be looking for a Matthew Tkachuk type trade to get a star player who can be here for a long time.

Somebody like Wallinder, Johansson or Buium could likely fill the 2nd pair LD spot in the future. Good that we have depth in the organization.

Not advocating for them to trade…was just answering the “what’s out there” question.

With a cheap cap hit…he is worth keeping even if he falls off a bit.

Which Dach? Because Kirby is definitely out of range.he isn’t going anywhere.

Walman isn't going to return something like Tkachuk but I guess you just meant a hockey trade or maybe you just meant for a star on an expiring deal +, for example Hanfiin +, but if that doesn't happen this year, he'll just be viewed as a 2-year rental.

Kirby Dach

Need to trade him no of course, would I if I got back a great piece yeah. I'm not moving him for picks or super young prospects though. I'd only move him for more of a known quantity.

I’d take a flyer on turcotte but if I think walman can get a 1st + especially with the current cap hit off a team like Toronto for example who are desperate for d help and have cap issues I wouldn’t do it . I’d rather trade a 2nd and a mid prospect and take a gamble even though I think he’s a bust at this point

I think we’re ok at Center with danielson and kasper being drafted recently. As for frost I’d personally wait and give the likes of Soderblom mazur etc.. a shot. I just thought if we’re thinking longterm and thinking we likely won’t be able to resign him which I think is the likely scenario if he continues to 40-50 pt seasons might be a good time to flip him now or in the summer with edvinsson being ready

Prospect would be nice but not sure which one would be equivalent of a first round pick. I know with at least a 1st attached that’s a future extra first rounder to pick or a bargaining chip for a future big trade

No doubt he’s got great chemistry but do you think we’ll be able to retain him after his contracts up? I don’t ... unless edvinsson and pelikka bust which would be a disaster . If continues on 40-50pts pace for 3 years he’ll ask for 7+ per which I wouldn’t give. I just think sometimes we should think longterm and now or next summer might be a good time to deal him while he’s value is really high and edvinsson is ready

The way I see it is if edvinsson and pelikka become what we hope we might have 3 dmen making 7-9 per? Can’t see us adding a 4th ... and I can’t see how walman won’t try to get a 6-8 year deal when he’s a ufa at 30 and it’s a hard no for me

Nobody is gonna trade us anything close to Matthew tkachuk .. I wish lol ... only way to do that is through the draft . That 1st for walman is always an extra trade chip in what can be a big future deal though

If I knew we could resign walman for 3 more years when his deal ended for 4.5-5.5 I’d keep him around but I think if he continues on this pace he’ll be gone and I’d rather get something for him we can use for the future than let him walk

Edvinsson and Pelikka aren't ready yet. One thing I've noticed from Red Wings fans in particular is that when a player Yzerman has acquired becomes good they want to trade them.

But keep their own picks who become good. Why do they have to be traded immediately? And it's always the same. Like with Hronek. "He'll want a raise so he must be traded."

You're basically the Montreal Expos of the NHL. A feeder system for other teams. Is this the goal?

Acquire, develop and trade?

I guess Debrincat will have to be traded when his contract is up. God forbid they'd keep him!

Who else did we acquire that’s good that I wanted to ship out? Lol .... edvinsson is ready he just can’t make the team now cause Yzerman signed and traded for a bunch of guys but he can easily jump into the lineup now and stick

Yes I did say hronek should be traded cause when his contract will be up I didn’t think Yzerman would want to pay him 7-9 per and I was right 😂 Vancouver gets those honours now .... like I said it all goes to **** if edvinsson and pelikka bust but they look really good right now and hronek trade is basically for pelikka Cleveland and a german forward forget his name now . Got 0 regrets moving hronek

Point is I can see the same thing happening with walman, I do think he gets dealt eventually if he keeps producing but it won’t be till at least the 2024 deadline or off season. I can’t see Yzerman giving walman 6-8 per year longterm

We didn’t develop debrincat 😂 we have a bunch of prospects fighting for spots next year and year after guys will have to be moved

I'm not that biased😅, Matthew Tkachuk for Walman would never happen. What i meant: Red Wings got Debrincat for a late 1st, UFA Kubalik and probably our 5th best LD prospect. Imagine how good a player we could get in return for Walman, 1st round pick and a higher caliber prospect than Sebrango. That could be a pretty damn good player.

So maybe it's a bigger trade where Walman is just a piece in it.