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Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 29 nov. 2023
Publié: 29 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 500 000 $
Transactions
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NYR
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir (2 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
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4.
CBJ
  1. Smejkal, Jiri
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $82 518 213 $0 $2 700 000 $981 787 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 1
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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838 333 $838 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
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805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2

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29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 47
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Personally I didn’t like what I saw from Tarasenko last year, so I’d pass
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29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 49
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Quoting: Rags21
Personally I didn’t like what I saw from Tarasenko last year, so I’d pass


He’s been really good with ottawa this year tbh. He hasn’t scored much but he’s been a big positive on the ice, different than what I was expecting. I thought we’d get a goal scorer who’s a defensive liability and doesn’t do much on the ice
29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 49
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Florida would, if they consider that deal at all, probably need to send some cap back
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29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 51
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Quoting: TheFastAndTheFleuryous
Florida would, if they consider that deal at all, probably need to send some cap back


I feel like it’s a good deal for both teams only if Florida plans to re-sign Bennett
29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 52
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He’s been really good with ottawa this year tbh. He hasn’t scored much but he’s been a big positive on the ice, different than what I was expecting. I thought we’d get a goal scorer who’s a defensive liability and doesn’t do much on the ice


If they do target Tarasenko, I’d rather not lose a roster player doing it. No matter how bad Kakko has been
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29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 52
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If they do target Tarasenko, I’d rather not lose a roster player doing it. No matter how bad Kakko has been


Don’t they have to move cap tho to fit him in even at 50%? Who would you move
29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 53
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NSH declines.
29 nov. 2023 à 18 h 54
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NSH declines.


It’s a pretty even swap lol
29 nov. 2023 à 19 h 0
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I’m personally not opposed to the Kuraly trade, but teams rarely move players with term remaining and letters on their chests. Especially when they’re natives to the small market.
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29 nov. 2023 à 19 h 6
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I’m personally not opposed to the Kuraly trade, but teams rarely move players with term remaining and letters on their chests. Especially when they’re natives to the small market.


Yeah I know I just feel like that’s exactly what we are missing in our bottom 6 and I’d pay for it haha
29 nov. 2023 à 19 h 12
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Don’t they have to move cap tho to fit him in even at 50%? Who would you move


Honestly i don’t know. They apparently accrue cap if only 1 player is called up while chytil and Kakko are on LTIR
29 nov. 2023 à 19 h 23
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It’s a pretty even swap lol


They're different players. Kubalik doesn't play defence, and he doesn't have Trenin's physicality. He's a secondary scorer who's not doing much of it this season. Trenin's putting up the same numbers, despite his slow start offensively and without the PP time Kubalik gets. Plus Trenin is cheaper and does more when the puck's not on his stick.

If NSH wants to add a Kubailk type player to their lineup, they can just call Gurianov up.
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30 nov. 2023 à 3 h 30
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The value on the Tarasenko trade is fine I guess even though I still think NYR would decline. The issue with it is that Kakko for Tarasenko doesn't solve the Rangers RW issue. I know Kakko is probably out for awhile but still supposed to be back this year. Rather give up futures than slightly upgrade that position while also mortgaging the future with a cost controlled player.
30 nov. 2023 à 6 h 37
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what is the frozen hell is this ACGM, Bather has far more value and is better than Lundell, no chance OTT does that

NYR would be hard pressed to get a 2nd for kappo yet alone give one up with a retained Tarasenko, are you secretly Chiarelli?
30 nov. 2023 à 17 h 8
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1. I wouldn't do that if I was Florida. Keep the young player

2. I'd like it, I'd even do it now even if Kakko is injured.

3. Sure, why not? Trenin can defend

4. I wouldn't target Kuraly.

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They're different players. Kubalik doesn't play defence, and he doesn't have Trenin's physicality. He's a secondary scorer who's not doing much of it this season. Trenin's putting up the same numbers, despite his slow start offensively and without the PP time Kubalik gets. Plus Trenin is cheaper and does more when the puck's not on his stick.

If NSH wants to add a Kubailk type player to their lineup, they can just call Gurianov up.

Agreed with the first part but Kubalik is a much better player overall than Gurianiov who is just bad.
30 nov. 2023 à 22 h 55
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Agreed with the first part but Kubalik is a much better player overall than Gurianiov who is just bad.


Yeah, Kubalik is notably better than Gurianov on the whole, but Kubalik just hasn't been producing this season. I haven't watched him a ton, but he's getting PP time and he's shooting 16%. That's way higher than his norm, so it's not just bad puck luck either.

Gurianov on the other hand, is playing really well in MIL. The Preds would be dumb to not at least give Gurianov a shot, before trading for Kubalik.
3 déc. 2023 à 12 h 50
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Yeah, Kubalik is notably better than Gurianov on the whole, but Kubalik just hasn't been producing this season. I haven't watched him a ton, but he's getting PP time and he's shooting 16%. That's way higher than his norm, so it's not just bad puck luck either.

Gurianov on the other hand, is playing really well in MIL. The Preds would be dumb to not at least give Gurianov a shot, before trading for Kubalik.

Yeah Kubalik is a bit useless in Ottawa, this team is not really well constructed, just a bunch of good hockey players not really complimentary of each others. And coaching just makes it even worse, really bad team full of good players. If they had less talent, they'd have maybe just 3 or 4 wins

As for Nashville needs, I am not as aware of this as you so I'll take your word, it should read Kubalik to "any team" (for a pick) in the OP
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3 déc. 2023 à 20 h 0
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As for Nashville needs, I am not as aware of this as you so I'll take your word, it should read Kubalik to "any team" (for a pick) in the OP


No NSH fan really knows what we need either. Are we competing, rebuilding, retooling, sticking with the status quo and seeing what happens? It's anyone's guess.
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