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Habs weekend trades

Créé par: JeffGorton
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 nov. 2023
Publié: 23 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Cap works if they send down one of their 14 forwards but this trade could wait a few weeks so the Devils have even more cap
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake (1 925 000 $ retained)
3.
CBJ
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Pearson, Tanner
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (MIN)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2083 500 000 $83 581 249 $1 170 000 $4 917 500 $-81 249 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C, AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
867 500 $867 500 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2

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23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 6
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Campbell and Primeau would probably be the worst tandem in the NHL... Habs more than likely just trading one of Montembeault or Allen, not both.

See what LAK paid for Dubois for what it would cost for Laine (not that they are comparable, but the asking price would still be the same imo).... no thank you.
23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 9
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I think that’s fair. I’d even consider throwing in a low level prospect
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23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 21
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Campbell and Primeau would probably be the worst tandem in the NHL... Habs more than likely just trading one of Montembeault or Allen, not both.

See what LAK paid for Dubois for what it would cost for Laine (not that they are comparable, but the asking price would still be the same imo).... no thank you.


Laine is nowhere near Dubois. Laine has a bad contract and really stinks 5v5. I only want him for his finishing and the maybe he becomes elite again. If 2 good young players, a 2nd and a 3rd is not enough, then the Jackets are gonna lose him for nothing in 3 years

And i want a bad goalie tandem, im not trying to compete. Im trying to tank
23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 21
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Two years of Allen at $1.9m is probably worth a 2nd. Seems fair to me.
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23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: JeffGorton
Laine is nowhere near Dubois. Laine has a bad contract and really stinks 5v5. I only want him for his finishing and the maybe he becomes elite again. If 2 good young players, a 2nd and a 3rd is not enough, then the Jackets are gonna lose him for nothing in 3 years

And i want a bad goalie tandem, im not trying to compete. Im trying to tank


Oh back to the tank talk, yippee. Habs aren’t rolling with Primeau and Campbell. We’re not at the fighting for a playoff spot yet but we’re also past the tanking phase. Team has to progress or players and fans will just tune out.
23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 34
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Two years of Allen at $1.9m is probably worth a 2nd. Seems fair to me.


I'd pay a 3rd tops. Just don't see the comps there to justify a 2nd for a veteran 1B
23 nov. 2023 à 13 h 47
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Oh back to the tank talk, yippee. Habs aren’t rolling with Primeau and Campbell. We’re not at the fighting for a playoff spot yet but we’re also past the tanking phase. Team has to progress or players and fans will just tune out.


Team has 1 potential elite forward. you need at least 3 to compete. Unless you feel like being mediocre for 15 years again
23 nov. 2023 à 15 h 9
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I'd pay a 3rd tops. Just don't see the comps there to justify a 2nd for a veteran 1B


Two years retention. Not saying it would be my first choice, but can’t argue it’s outside the norm.
23 nov. 2023 à 15 h 38
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Two years retention. Not saying it would be my first choice, but can’t argue it’s outside the norm.


Adin Hill 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 4th.
Desmith 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 3rd and MTL took back a cap dump.

This 1 year of Allen at 2 mill is something I'd pay a late 3rd/early 4th for. Not sure getting 34 year old allen for another year adds that kind of value
23 nov. 2023 à 15 h 43
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Two years retention. Not saying it would be my first choice, but can’t argue it’s outside the norm.


Especially when the only non RFA rights goalie I've seen go for a 2nd anytime recently were fluery and lehner

Lehner was coming off a 3rd place vezina finish the previous year, and fluery was coming off a vezina win
23 nov. 2023 à 16 h 28
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Drop it to a 3rd and we throw in a propsect. Im not trading 2nd for Allen. I rather go get Gibson if we just wanna throw away a 2nd. Stolarz,Riemer,Lyon would all be cheaper. Just need to see Stolarz play more than 4gms.
23 nov. 2023 à 18 h 0
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Adin Hill 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 4th.
Desmith 1 year full season rental at 2 mill cost a 3rd and MTL took back a cap dump.

This 1 year of Allen at 2 mill is something I'd pay a late 3rd/early 4th for. Not sure getting 34 year old allen for another year adds that kind of value


Allen is not exciting…I’d be overwhelmed with indifference if we acquired him.

Hill wasn’t proven at his trade. DeSmith had 1-year and less of track record. Again, none are exciting…nor guaranteed to be better than what we’ve got. But the price, 2nd for Allen with 50% retained seems okay to me.
 
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