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Nylander at 12 mill

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17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 16
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While he has been great I dont think Leafs are gonna make him the highest paid wing in the NHL.

Probs will be at most 10.5m x 8 years making him more than

Kucherov
Tkachuck
Stone
Rantanen

Cause lets be real in FA most he would probs get 10.5m by a non competitor
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 16
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While he has been great I dont think Leafs are gonna make him the highest paid wing in the NHL.

Probs will be 10m x 8 years making him more than

Kucherov
Tkachuck
Stone
Rantanen

Cause lets be real in FA most he would probs get 10.5m by a non competitor


He walks to free agency if you offer him 10 mill. Toronto taxes are not the same as those places. You need to offer him 11.5 at least
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 19
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He walks to free agency if you offer him 10 mill. Toronto taxes are not the same as those places. You need to offer him 11.5 at least


Nobody in FA is giving him more than 10m especially a non competitor

Gaudreau walked to free agency and made 9.75m after CGY offered him 10.5m he had 115 points.

Tkachuck took 9.5m in a sign and trade had 104 points

Nobody is giving Nylander 11m even with the cap going up besides a non competitor and Willy dont want to go to a non competitor

Hes not worth more than Pastranak and he does not play defense like Marner

Based on the comparable 10m x 8 years is the highest
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 19
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Nobody in FA is giving him more than 10m especially a non competitor

Gaudreau walked to free agency and made 9.75m after CGY offered him 10.5m

Tkachuck took 9.5m in a sign and trade

Nobody is giving Nylander 11m even with the cap going up besides a non competitor and Willy dont want to go to a non competitor


I would sign Nylander for 11+ in a heartbeat
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I would sign Nylander for 11+ in a heartbeat


Then how about Ott does that?
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Then how about Ott does that?


I would
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 34
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On the open market he gets $13M+

Someone like Chicago or Anaheim speeds up their rebuild by 2-3 years by signing him. The increased fate revenues along will bring in a few M a year to justify the "overpay".
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17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: aadoyle
Nobody in FA is giving him more than 10m especially a non competitor

Gaudreau walked to free agency and made 9.75m after CGY offered him 10.5m he had 115 points.

Tkachuck took 9.5m in a sign and trade had 104 points

Nobody is giving Nylander 11m even with the cap going up besides a non competitor and Willy dont want to go to a non competitor

Hes not worth more than Pastranak and he does not play defense like Marner

Based on the comparable 10m x 8 years is the highest


CBJ offered Marner $13.5M
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17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 36
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CBJ offered Marner $13.5M


That was an offersheet before covid ****ed over the league with a flat cap and yea he was offered but didnt take it why wanted to be a Leaf. Also CBJ no competitive barely scaped into playoffs via tournament.

Were in a different time now, Sure its going up but not as high as it was projected years ago.

Willy is good but hes not good enough to be the highest paid wing in the NHL there are guys rn ahead of him making 10m or less. Now there is Pasta and Marner but they be better in their own way.
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 41
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That was an offersheet before covid ****ed over the league with a flat cap and yea he was offered but didnt take it why wanted to be a Leaf. Also CBJ no competitive barely scaped into playoffs via tournament.

Were in a different time now, Sure its going up but not as high as it was projected years ago.

Willy is good but hes not good enough to be the highest paid wing in the NHL there are guys rn ahead of him making 10m or less. Now there is Pasta and Marner but they be better in their own way.


Take the Pastrnak contract , add a cap inflation and a bit more to account for Ontario taxes
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 43
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Take the Pastrnak contract , add a cap inflation and a bit more to account for Ontario taxes


Pasta is better than Nylander though so no lul

How about you take the Pasta contract -1m as its a contract year and players often play their best during that year and you get the actual contract. That way if Willy's play drops and it probs will once he signs and gets his money your not overpaying a guy

As Willy should not be the highest paid RW in the NHL. There are guys better making less rn or who do things he does not.

10-10.5m x 8 years for him is fair. As considering the comparable giving him 11+ is just not justifiable. Its a contract year and hes playing his heart out tends to happen when money is involved.
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 48
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I don’t think it will be 8 years or 12M if he extends but based on what the Leafs are (over)paying their “elite” guys why not ummm…
5 years at 11.2M

I say Vancouver would pay that or even a little more, somehow…other teams as well…

In terms of offence and overall game I think he hasn’t hit his ceiling

Sign him up Tre, 5 years at 11M and then dump Marner in the summer.
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I would


Then do that... Bc the Leafs won't give Nylander Pasta money
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17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 51
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I don’t think it will be 8 years or 12M if he extends but based on what the Leafs are (over)paying their “elite” guys why not ummm…
5 years at 11.2M

I say Vancouver would pay that or even a little more, somehow…other teams as well…

In terms of offence and overall game I think he hasn’t hit his ceiling

Sign him up Tre, 5 years at 11M and then dump Marner in the summer.


Which of the big 4 was overpaid. Each of them lived up to their deals even Marner

Marner has a NMC so how is he gonna dump him

Marner has been a solid 2-way player and moving him makes 0 sense for this team
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Then do that... Bc the Leafs won't give Nylander Pasta money


Nylander is better than Marner
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 52
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Then do that... Bc the Leafs won't give Nylander Pasta money


To me in order for Willy to get Pasta money hes gonna have to get 60 goals and over 120 points

He may do it but to me I think we see 50 goals and 110 points.

10 x 8yrs
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 53
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Nylander is better than Marner


In terms of offense yes, defense no

Marner is a 2-way wing who guys want on their line as he makes centers better. Also top 3 in Selke votes last year

Willy is a nice offensive guy who plays well but can get hot and cold. Hes having himself a season but remember its a contract year that tends to make players play their best hockey
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In terms of offense yes, defense no

Marner is a 2-way wing who guys want on their line as he makes centers better. Also top 3 in Selke votes last year

Willy is a nice offensive guy who plays well but can get hot and cold.


Marner is very overrated. Nylander has been better including in the playoffs
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Marner is very overrated. Nylander has been better including in the playoffs


Might be one of the worst takes on this site

Marner last year was top 3 in Selke conversation with Bergeron and Hischer. You dont get there unless your good defensively

Also was 1 shy of 100 points.

This is a player top centers want on their wing and we have seen that with JT and Matthews having solid performances with his passes.
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Not really he was in the Selke conversation. You dont get there unless your good defensively

Also was 1 shy of 100 points

This is a player top centers want on their wing


I’d give u Chabot and Batherson for Nylander. I’d even throw in a 1st to get that extension done. I’d give him 11+ easy
17 nov. 2023 à 17 h 58
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Which of the big 4 was overpaid. Each of them lived up to their deals even Marner

Marner has a NMC so how is he gonna dump him

Marner has been a solid 2-way player and moving him makes 0 sense for this team


He will cry again unless he gets close to Matthews…so I guess close to 13M? Great player but not a huge difference maker, especially in the playoffs. Pretty sure he would waive to move on…who knows though maybe they give him a new deal as well.

IMO tho you use/need his cap space for better D and bottom 6 or G too

Oh and I should add that I see Cowan taking that spot…
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He will cry again unless he gets close to Matthews…so I guess close to 13M? Great player but not a huge difference maker, especially in the playoffs. Pretty sure he would waive to move on…who knows though maybe they give him a new deal as well.


Marner will make Pasta money to at most 11.5m

He dont got Dubas to deal with anymore

He got Brad

And when his deals up JT is off the books 11m freed to do dmg
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Quoting: csick
Nylander is better than Marner


And? Marner isn't worth 11 either... What's your point?
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Marner will make Pasta money to at most 11.5m

He dont got Dubas to deal with anymore

He got Brad

And when his deals up JT is off the books 11m freed to do dmg


Lmao are u on drugs? Nylander is getting 11.5-12 and Marner is getting 12.5-13 . Marner is also negotiating a year later when the cap will be at 90
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To me in order for Willy to get Pasta money hes gonna have to get 60 goals and over 120 points

He may do it but to me I think we see 50 goals and 110 points.

10 x 8yrs


If that's the case, trade Marner for tons of assets and get a star defensemen... IDK who, but the Leafs should use 3/4 of their assets from Marner on a good defensemen and 2 middle 6 forwards and could have a defensive core of:

Rielly-Brodie
Star-Tanev
McCabe-Lilly
Zadorov

Which sounds super intriguing
 
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