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Stars Experiment

Créé par: Dr_Invictus
Équipe: 2023-24 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 16 nov. 2023
Publié: 16 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Non
Journées à la saison: 192
Journées restantes: 154
Saison restante: 80%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 83 042 829 $
Description
Interested to see which fan base objects more: Oilers or Stars? You have to admit that top line is deadly.

The Flames trade was to bolster the D core with Heiskanen's departure.
Transactions
1.
DAL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Draisaitl, Leon
Détails additionnels:
Only an 80k difference in cap...shocking
2.
DAL
  1. Hanifin, Noah (2 400 000 $ retained)
  2. Zadorov, Nikita
Détails additionnels:
Hanifin helps (somewhat) replace the void left by Heiskanen and Zadorov helps bolster their RD for a cup run
CGY
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Dellandrea, Ty
  3. Hakanpää, Jani
  4. Kyrou, Christian
  5. Marchment, Mason
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
  7. Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Calgary takes on Marchment and Hakanpaa to satisfy the cap requirements here. Effectively, the deal broken down as:
Bourque, Dellandrea, and a 1st for Hanifin.
Kyrou and a second for Zadorov, and the retention.
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
2025
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de NJD
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
2026
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
Logo de DAL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $80 301 709 $372 829 $3 820 000 $3 198 291 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $6 817 708 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
8 450 000 $6 777 604 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Stars de Dallas
7 750 000 $6 216 146 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 500 000 $7 619 792 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
9 850 000 $7 900 521 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 500 000 $2 807 292 $ (Bonis de performance2 000 000 $$2M)
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
850 000 $681 771 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
814 167 $653 030 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C, AD
RFA - 3
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 000 000 $2 406 250 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
2 250 000 $1 804 688 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 250 000 $2 606 771 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $741 927 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $$250K)
AD
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Flames de Calgary
-1 162 500 $-932 422 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
925 000 $741 927 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
4 000 000 $3 208 333 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Stars de Dallas
5 800 000 $4 652 083 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 750 000 $3 007 813 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 000 000 $802 083 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
863 333 $692 465 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
787 500 $631 641 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 000 000 $802 083 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
3 650 000 $2 927 604 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2

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16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 16
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No chance edmonton does that Dallas would have to add if you wanna acquire the 2nd best player in the world
16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 21
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No chance Edmonton does that Dallas would have to add if you wanna acquire the 2nd best player in the world


I dunnno, this seems pretty fair. Wyatt Johnston is (or will be) a Top line center on most teams, and Heiskanen is one of the best D men in the league. It gives Edmonton cost certainty and they don't need to worry about resigning Draisaitl.

I agree though, he is the 2nd best player
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16 nov. 2023 à 15 h 34
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Not directed at you specifically, but I find that Miro's value is so underated around these parts.
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16 nov. 2023 à 16 h 8
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ooooo I kinda like this one but,

Stars probably reject based on fit, no team has ever traded their no.1 d-man and then turned right around to go on to win a cup.

Edmonton probably rejects too based on value but it's a lot closer than most fans think, they might actually accept it in all honesty it would be 50/50
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16 nov. 2023 à 16 h 17
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Don't think Dallas would or should do this. Usually it's not the smartest to trade your top defenseman and continue to try and win. Plus Heiskanen has a great contract and they may only get Draisaitl for 18 months
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16 nov. 2023 à 16 h 18
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Also that seems like a real big overpay for Hanifin
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16 nov. 2023 à 17 h 15
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Not directed at you specifically, but I find that Miro's value is so underated around these parts.


I agree. I considered a trade with Lindell, but it was harder to make the cap work in the trade. This was just simple.
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16 nov. 2023 à 17 h 20
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Don't think Dallas would or should do this. Usually it's not the smartest to trade your top defenseman and continue to try and win. Plus Heiskanen has a great contract and they may only get Draisaitl for 18 months


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Also that seems like a real big overpay for Hanifin


I think he would happily resign in Dallas. Imagine spending the best years of your life in Edmonton and being filthy rich... Most places would seem a lot better.

The Flames trade was to fill the hole in the d core. I left Stankoven out of the deal intentionally but I think the stars would accept if they made the Edmonton trade. There isn't a ton of D available outside of Calgary, let alone a 26 year old top pairing defenseman. I agree it wouldn't happen if miro didn't leave.
17 nov. 2023 à 9 h 41
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I'd rather trade Robertson and Stankoven than Heiskanen and Johnston.

Regardless. No.
17 nov. 2023 à 10 h 24
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I'd rather trade Robertson and Stankoven than Heiskanen and Johnston.

Regardless. No.


He's the 2nd best player in the world. Just google the phrase "nhl players with most points last 5 years"

If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic
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17 nov. 2023 à 10 h 51
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He's the 2nd best player in the world. Just google the phrase "nhl players with most points last 5 years"

If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic


Miro is probably a Top 5 D in the world. That is, if you are not looking only at goals and points. Miro also, does not have the luxury of playing on his strong side and with a partner of the quality of Toews.

In other words and IMO, this trade proposal favors Edmonton.
17 nov. 2023 à 13 h 50
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Miro is probably a Top 5 D in the world. That is, if you are not looking only at goals and points. Miro also, does not have the luxury of playing on his strong side and with a partner of the quality of Toews.

In other words and IMO, this trade proposal favors Edmonton.


You'll get no argument from me that Miro is a stellar defenseman. However, it doesn't make the trade unfair. Draisaitl is, after all, the 2nd best player in the world right now, and not past his prime. IF cap wasn't a consideration (or NMC) I would say that a more complex deal to be had.

This was the simplest option though, and the Calgary deal was merely a way to bolster the d core after the trade.
17 nov. 2023 à 14 h 13
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He's the 2nd best player in the world. Just google the phrase "nhl players with most points last 5 years"

If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic


I like the trade idea, don't think either team would do it but is a really interesting idea.

Mostly commenting to say "If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic" is an amazing saying.
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17 nov. 2023 à 15 h 44
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I like the trade idea, don't think either team would do it but is a really interesting idea.

Mostly commenting to say "If a trade doesn't make you feel uncomfortable, then it isn't realistic" is an amazing saying.


Yeah, I would love to take credit for it, but it was another guy on here that said it to me when we were discussing a trade for Konecny.
17 nov. 2023 à 15 h 47
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You'll get no argument from me that Miro is a stellar defenseman. However, it doesn't make the trade unfair. Draisaitl is, after all, the 2nd best player in the world right now, and not past his prime. IF cap wasn't a consideration (or NMC) I would say that a more complex deal to be had.

This was the simplest option though, and the Calgary deal was merely a way to bolster the d core after the trade.


The trade is unfair when you include Johnston for Bourgeault.
17 nov. 2023 à 15 h 55
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The trade is unfair when you include Johnston for Bourgeault.


Johnston is definitely better than Bourgault. However, Draisaitl is worth more than Heiskanen. I had thought about Bouchard, but that leaves the issue of cap space, which means Dallas has to send something back as well. Lindell's NMC was also a reason for not structuring the deal around him. It would have been easier if he didn't have it.
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17 nov. 2023 à 16 h 40
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Johnston is definitely better than Bourgault. However, Draisaitl is worth more than Heiskanen. I had thought about Bouchard, but that leaves the issue of cap space, which means Dallas has to send something back as well. Lindell's NMC was also a reason for not structuring the deal around him. It would have been easier if he didn't have it.


I disagree and I would never pull the trigger on that trade, but it’s not the end of the world.
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