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Fixing the depth

Créé par: Rob32sjsharks
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 14 nov. 2023
Publié: 14 nov. 2023
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This is extreme and likely would come with a lot of heat.

But RNH is a more than serviceable 2C and adding Debrusk Duclair Carlo and Ullmark plus signing Kane would give this team better forward depth, better D, and much much better Goaltending.

Yes you lose the best 2C in hockey but this gets the team up to be better. IMO anyways
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14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 12
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Oilers aren’t trading draisaitl lmao and that deal is near enough
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bruins and sharks say no
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Oilers aren’t trading draisaitl lmao and that deal is near enough


Why not?
In a perfect situation, where your GM didn’t screw the pooch on a couple of bad deals I would never trade him, but your situation right now isn’t a good one and I don’t see any way to turn the season around without something drastic and he is your best option to move and improve this roster.
14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 22
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bruins and sharks say no


I’m a sharks fan and I think we would say yes!
And while a lot to give up, I think Boston would have a hard time saying no to getting one of the best C in hockey and not having to move any prospects and only 1 1st.
I think all 3 benefit from these 2 deals.
14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 23
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Why not?
In a perfect situation, where your GM didn’t screw the pooch on a couple of bad deals I would never trade him, but your situation right now isn’t a good one and I don’t see any way to turn the season around without something drastic and he is your best option to move and improve this roster.


You have no idea what you are talking about lmao the oilers have a better chance to make the playoffs then not making it so nothing needs to be changed and if something did needed to be changed trading draisaitl isn’t the answer idk why you think it is but it’s quite odd imo
14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I’m a sharks fan and I think we would say yes!
And while a lot to give up, I think Boston would have a hard time saying no to getting one of the best C in hockey and not having to move any prospects and only 1 1st.
I think all 3 benefit from these 2 deals.


draisaitl isnt one of the best centers and for oilers to dump Campbell while gaining assets is gonna cost way more
14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Only deal the oilers will do for draisaitl to boston starts with pastranak and some
14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 26
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draisaitl isnt one of the best centers and for oilers to dump Campbell while gaining assets is gonna cost way more

Draisairl is quite easily the 2nd best player in the world what r u talking about?
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Draisairl is quite easily the 2nd best player in the world what r u talking about?


haha u wish, maybe second best player on his team but thats about it
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Oilers aren’t trading draisaitl lmao and that deal is near enough


It’s closer than most of the bad trade ideas that Edmonton fans have made.

The reality is the Bruins, like any team, would give a kings ransom for Leon. That said, they aren’t going to trade one of the best goalies in the league for a protected first rounder and fringe. You don’t secure a “get out of jail free card”

How you fix your defense and goaltending is going to be interesting. Hope you do it before it costs you one, if not two, of your transcendent stars
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14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 28
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It’s closer than most of the bad trade ideas that Edmonton fans have made.

The reality is the Bruins, like any team, would give a kings ransom for Leon. That said, they aren’t going to trade one of the best goalies in the league for a protected first rounder and fringe. You don’t secure a “get out of jail free card”

How you fix your defense and goaltending is going to be interesting. Hope you do it before it costs you the two stars


Skinner will be fine and I don’t understand why people think trading draisaitl is such a great idea when it’s really just flat out dumb and would ruin oilers chances of resigning McDavid
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You have no idea what you are talking about lmao the oilers have a better chance to make the playoffs then not making it so nothing needs to be changed and if something did needed to be changed trading draisaitl isn’t the answer idk why you think it is but it’s quite odd imo


I get fans not wanting to lose one of their stars! But hear me out…. In a few years both Draisaitl and McDavid combined are going to run about 27-28 mil a season combined, leaving roughly 64 mil in cap space (assuming 92 mil cap) for the rest of the team remove 9.25 for Nurse 6 for Elkholm, 5.5 for Hyman and your left with about 44 mil for 18 remaining spots including Bouchard both goalies and 2 top 4 D and 3 top 6 wings. How are you going to manage keeping that roster competitive? This helps you solve that problem doesn’t it?
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14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 31
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Skinner will be fine and I don’t understand why people think trading draisaitl is such a great idea when it’s really just flat out dumb and would ruin oilers chances of resigning McDavid


Skinner has been worse than Campbell, so it’s an optimistic take. He looks like a fragile liability at this point shell shocked and playing at a level that is unacceptable.

I personally think you’d be better off making an offer for Gustavsson, but Skinner has been far from fine.

I think trading Draisaitl is assanine stupidity, but I also think status quo will likely make the situation untenable llong term barring some unexpected emergence
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Only deal the oilers will do for draisaitl to boston starts with pastranak and some


That doesn’t fix the Oilers depth problem though!
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14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 32
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It’s closer than most of the bad trade ideas that Edmonton fans have made.

The reality is the Bruins, like any team, would give a kings ransom for Leon. That said, they aren’t going to trade one of the best goalies in the league for a protected first rounder and fringe. You don’t secure a “get out of jail free card”

How you fix your defense and goaltending is going to be interesting. Hope you do it before it costs you one, if not two, of your transcendent stars


Oiler fans are a little delusional about the return they will get for Draisaitl.

He's worth a lot yes - but the value they from a a top-4 D in his prime with term, a Vezina goalie, a top-6 winger (Debrusk), an A-level prospect on his ELC (Lysell), and a future first immediately makes more of an impact and improves the team than just Leon.
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Skinner has been worse than Campbell, so it’s an optimistic take. He looks like a fragile liability at this point shell shocked and playing at a level that is unacceptable.

I personally think you’d be better off making an offer for Gustavsson, but Skinner has been far from fine.

I think trading Draisaitl is assanine stupidity, but I also think status quo will likely make the situation untenable llong term barring some unexpected emergence


It might be the best option to keep this team competitive! Having 2 C eat up 26-28 mil in a few years isn’t sustainable and leaves you with 2 stars and a 1st round exit from the playoffs!
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Oiler fans are a little delusional about the return they will get for Draisaitl.

He's worth a lot yes - but the value they from a a top-4 D in his prime with term, a Vezina goalie, a top-6 winger (Debrusk), an A-level prospect on his ELC (Lysell), and a future first immediately makes more of an impact and improves the team than just Leon.


I wouldn’t trade Leon for that personally if I were them.

I’d probably demand Swayman, require the inclusion of Campbell at full freight, and then some. It’s why I think it’s a non starter to even discuss it. I’m not sure NMC’s would allow the deal to happen
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14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 41
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It’s closer than most of the bad trade ideas that Edmonton fans have made.

The reality is the Bruins, like any team, would give a kings ransom for Leon. That said, they aren’t going to trade one of the best goalies in the league for a protected first rounder and fringe. You don’t secure a “get out of jail free card”

How you fix your defense and goaltending is going to be interesting. Hope you do it before it costs you one, if not two, of your transcendent stars


As an Oilers fan, I think the trade is decently fair. 2nd best player in the world for a starting, Vezina caliber goalie, 2nd line player and 2nd pair dman.
That being said though, a trade I'd more so be interested in is something involving McAvoy.
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14 nov. 2023 à 16 h 42
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As an Oilers fan, I think the trade is decently fair. 2nd best player in the world for a starting, Vezina caliber goalie, 2nd line player and 2nd pair dman.
That being said though, a trade I'd more so be interested in is something involving McAvoy.


NMC’s will prevent most deals from happening. Period
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14 nov. 2023 à 17 h 4
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Skinner has been worse than Campbell, so it’s an optimistic take. He looks like a fragile liability at this point shell shocked and playing at a level that is unacceptable.

I personally think you’d be better off making an offer for Gustavsson, but Skinner has been far from fine.

I think trading Draisaitl is assanine stupidity, but I also think status quo will likely make the situation untenable llong term barring some unexpected emergence

Skinner hasn’t been worse than campbell at all though idk were u getting that from
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As an Oilers fan, I think the trade is decently fair. 2nd best player in the world for a starting, Vezina caliber goalie, 2nd line player and 2nd pair dman.
That being said though, a trade I'd more so be interested in is something involving McAvoy.


And that would be really bad for the Bruins D structure. I just flat out think that based on what both teams want in the immediate term, what they need to keep and what they have available to trade, they don't work as trade partners
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14 nov. 2023 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: Fail4Nail
As an Oilers fan, I think the trade is decently fair. 2nd best player in the world for a starting, Vezina caliber goalie, 2nd line player and 2nd pair dman.
That being said though, a trade I'd more so be interested in is something involving McAvoy.


As a Bruins fan, I'd be very much no to what was proposed, let alone anything that touches McAvoy or Swayman..... Why would the Bruins blow up a 1st place team for a decent player only signed for one more year? Ullmark for a first and RNH maybe. Draisaitl is good, but a long way from 2nd best player.
14 nov. 2023 à 18 h 4
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As a Bruins fan, I'd be very much no to what was proposed, let alone anything that touches McAvoy or Swayman..... Why would the Bruins blow up a 1st place team for a decent player only signed for one more year? Ullmark for a first and RNH maybe. Draisaitl is good, but a long way from 2nd best player.


Blud are you really saying Drai is only decent???! I'm an Oilers fan, I get it might sound that I'm biased, but he is the 2nd best player in the league. Any argument saying that he's only good because he plays with McDavid is most likely coming from someone who doesn't watch the Oilers. Any GM in this league, if they had the opportunity to build a team around McAvoy or Drai, every one of them picks Drai.
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14 nov. 2023 à 18 h 38
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Skinner hasn’t been worse than campbell at all though idk were u getting that from


Before yesterday, Skinner’s save percentage was .860 as opposed to Campbell at .873. He is now finally above him after his game against the Islanders.

Even with yesterday, Skinners expected goals against expected was -6.6 ranked 71 / 72 active goalies in the league, but Campbell has a higher rated per 60.

I didn’t realize Gustavsson was playing so poorly, but Skinner has been one of the worst goalies in the league
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As an Oilers fan, I think the trade is decently fair. 2nd best player in the world for a starting, Vezina caliber goalie, 2nd line player and 2nd pair dman.
That being said though, a trade I'd more so be interested in is something involving McAvoy.


His cap hit was too much and would hinder the depth I was going for here. But I understand your thought
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