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Keep rebuilding

Créé par: vbolshakov
Équipe: 2024-25 Sharks de San Jose
Date de création initiale: 8 nov. 2023
Publié: 8 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3950 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 000 000 $
2950 000 $
23 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
78 000 000 $
65 000 000 $
55 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
SJS
  1. Campbell, Jack
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2026 (EDM)
2.
VAN
  1. Halttunen, Kasper
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (SJS)
3.
SJS
  1. Hayton, Barrett [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
ARI
  1. Kunin, Luke [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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Logo de WSH
2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2286 500 000 $80 072 500 $0 $1 307 500 $6 427 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
950 000 $950 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
950 000 $950 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 21
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No reason for the Canucks to trade Kuzmenko for futures
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8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 22
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Arizona declines
8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 28
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This is not rebuilding. This is rushing to try and be competitive and giving up picks and prospects to do so, only to still have an average team
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8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 45
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Quoting: mv21227
No reason for the Canucks to trade Kuzmenko for futures


That 1st round pick would be worth a lot. Probably net a RHD and a good winger
8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 52
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That 1st round pick would be worth a lot. Probably net a RHD and a good winger


Exactly. That first round pick will probably be a top two pick.
8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 56
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So a team trying to tank trades a potentially high first for a top-six winger on a short contract, and a team trying to compete trades a top-six winger who has fit well for a potentially high first that they then have to try to turn into two players, one of which will hopefully replace the winger they just traded...

I guess if you think the Canucks can swap it for some premium players they do it, but there is absolutely zero reason why San Jose does this.
8 nov. 2023 à 17 h 58
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How did you think that Arizona deal was even remotely acceptable to Arizona?
8 nov. 2023 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: OldManRutherford
Exactly. That first round pick will probably be a top two pick.


It’s Pittsburgh’s pick so no it won’t be
8 nov. 2023 à 18 h 2
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Quoting: sedin33
That 1st round pick would be worth a lot. Probably net a RHD and a good winger


Pittsburgh’s 1st is probably in the mid teens
8 nov. 2023 à 18 h 4
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Quoting: Juiceman
It’s Pittsburgh’s pick so no it won’t be


Ahh I missed that. Thanks

No thanks to the offer then.
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8 nov. 2023 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: Juiceman
Pittsburgh’s 1st is probably in the mid teens


Quoting: OldManRutherford
Ahh I missed that. Thanks

No thanks to the offer then.


I missed that too.
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8 nov. 2023 à 19 h 12
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Canucks decline. We're competeing, trading a top 6 winger for futures makes no sense, especially when that top 6 winger is playing well, is a great fit, and has amazing chemsitry with our superstar.
8 nov. 2023 à 20 h 14
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you really think AZ is going to give you hayton to move up 10-15 spots in the 4th. Not even TML would come up with that ridiculous proposal
9 nov. 2023 à 2 h 48
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Quoting: Epic_Ninja_Dude
Canucks decline. We're competeing, trading a top 6 winger for futures makes no sense, especially when that top 6 winger is playing well, is a great fit, and has amazing chemsitry with our superstar.


Canucks will not have a budget to keep Kuzmenko as they need to re-sign Pettersson (11-13MM), and Hronek (8MM) + OEL buyout will eat 2.3MM-4.7MM yearly.
9 nov. 2023 à 2 h 54
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Quoting: bwhsocal
you really think AZ is going to give you hayton to move up 10-15 spots in the 4th. Not even TML would come up with that ridiculous proposal


My bad, I wanted to add Kunin sigh rights to the trade
9 nov. 2023 à 2 h 55
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Quoting: Kinger25
Arizona declines


I forgot to add Kunin, fixed it
9 nov. 2023 à 3 h 5
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Quoting: vbolshakov
Canucks will not have a budget to keep Kuzmenko as they need to re-sign Pettersson (11-13MM), and Hronek (8MM) + OEL buyout will eat 2.3MM-4.7MM yearly.


Canucks easily have more than enough cap space to keep their current core in tact. They have Myers ($6M), Beauvillier ($4M), and Cole ($3M) all coming off the books, plus the cap is projected to go up $4M this offseason. That's nearly $20M in space just from that alone, which is more than enough to cover raises for Pettersson ($12M) and Hronek ($7.5M), as those contract points only add $8M to their cap. Myers coming off the books alone is nearly enough to cover Petey and Hronek. Canucks are fine, but if someone needs to go to make cap space, Kuzmenko is one of the last people that will be. Garland and Beauvillier are both wingers who are far less important than Kuzmenko and will be gone lightyears before the Canucks would even consider moving Kuzy. Kuzmenko is under contract for 2 seasons anyways, by the time he needs a raise at the end of his current deal the Canucks cap situation will be looking completely different with tons of money having come off the books as well as the cap going up a handsome amount.
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9 nov. 2023 à 11 h 3
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Quoting: vbolshakov
My bad, I wanted to add Kunin sigh rights to the trade


that takes it out of TML level, but AZ still passes. hayton isnt scoring but he does all the non scoreboard things pretty well. last year his first 30 games had 0G/3A and ended 19/24/43pts.
 
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