Kreider -9G/3A- below expectarions?

his 5v5 is below expected. only reason why. i want to say above but hes a ghost at 5v5. same with kakko and mika

Not trolling, just an honest question. How is Laf performing way above expectations when he is playing in the top 6 and only on pace for 41 points? Shouldn't the expectation be higher than 50 points in the top 6? Again, not trolling just asking.

the points may not be perfect, however, watching him play everygame is day and night from last year. He has been the reason why panarin is on a 12 game point streak. Laf makes so many plays and sets up panarin. he may not get as many points due to being the 3rd guy or the starter of the play, but his game has been superb this year. also, thanks for being respectful with the question

Ok that's fair, so pretty much like Salf this year when playing with Anderson and Newhook. He should have had many more points but Anderson couldn't convert on the passes. I am glad to see Laf finally finding his groove, hopefully he can maintain it for the whole season.

im hoping that this is the year for him to breakout and then be the dominant force he can be. slaf as well. i love big guys like that who look so nimble. fun players

I am sure if he is playing well and to his strengths the points will come for him. I love people and players who are written off prove nay sayers wrong. TBH, last year and over the summer I was having my doubts about Laf as well, I like him a lot as a player and wish the best for him though. Glad to hear he is playing well again.

Got it...
The key here I think is getting Kakko going. He's a possession beast- but the irony is how the unit manages to get so few chances and shots...even when controlling possession. I think time will show Wheeler is not the answer on this line. Maybe he's holding a spot for Kane? or Chytil when he returns? Would be nice for Kakko to figure things out....or for the unit to figure things out to generate more O (especially while cycling)...but that's up to Kakko working w/ the coaches, and keeping his confidence- which seems so fragile.

I like this idea but had a few places where I disagree

Ok starting with way above expectations, is Fox's start really been that far above expectations? Like he's been amazing but given what we've already seen from him is it really that surprising? Same with Shesterkin like is this really shocking? Other than that I think it looks good, I'd probably have Laf in above instead of way above just bc his production hasnt been great but I can see the arguement

Next in above expectations have we watched a different Lindgren? If anything I think he has been subtly falling bellow expectations but at the most he is probably meeting expectations right now. Miller is simmilar to Laf where I'd probably have him slightly lower but can see the argument for him being there. Other than that looks good

In meeting expectations I agree except for Chytil and Schneider. Chytil being above expectations and Schneider slightly below. Definetly room for debate but that's where id have them

Now everyone else looks good except for Kreider. I know that top line hasn't been fantastic 5v5 but Kreider still has 9 goals in 12 games. I dont care what he does 5v5 if he can score at a 60 goal pace and play well defensively? Thats fantastic I'd say he's probably above expectations at this stage

I like your points and i can definetly agree with some of them. I believe with lindgren, he does his job to a tee and when he didn't play we looked less organized on D. Just my personal opinion

Very fair, I think its also he's just adjusting to a new coaching style, has definetly looked much better the past few games