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Back on track with Mack Black

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 7 nov. 2023
Publié: 7 nov. 2023
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7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 11
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Highly recommend not going this route.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 12
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Highly recommend not going this route.


Which side? But yes.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 14
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Sharks shouldn’t do this deal. taking on Campbell for picks and a prospect? sure! Moving Vlasic and our final retention slot for multiple years + Blackwood (who has played much better than his numbers suggest) for Campbell and a bust is not smart.
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7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 18
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Sharks shouldn’t do this deal. taking on Campbell for picks and a prospect? sure! Moving Vlasic and our final retention slot for multiple years + Blackwood (who has played much better than his numbers suggest) for Campbell and a bust is not smart.


I imagine there is some combination of Blackwood for Campbell+ that works.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 18
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Shockingly, I have to say the Sharks would decline a Vlasic trade haha.

Broberg doesn’t have really any stock value, and we already are invested in :
Shakir Muk (Meier)
Thrun (traded picks)
Ferraro (eehhh he’s shown a lot of good and some struggles)
Plus we have Pulli Cicek (probably solid 3rd pair bodies in the near future) and Knyzhov (potential) and that’s just a few of our LD.

Taking on a 8.5m Campbell (Vlasics retention plus the term use on the ret. slot) just make it an easy pass.

Sharks can easily fit Campbell fully, now and for the foreseeable future. No need for Vlasic to bog down a deal.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 20
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Absolutely terrible for SJ. Why would SJ do this? Genuinely curious.

- They can just ride out vlasic no problem. they can even waive him now that his NMC is over
- Retaining on Vlasic eliminates their last retention slot for this year and next, and then only one 3 years from now
- They're taking on a contract that's worse than Vlasics, considering the length of Campbell
- They only get one very mediocre asset back, in a position that's already logjammed with Thrun, Shakir, Okhotiuk, Ferraro, Gagnoni. Most of whom I'd take over Broberg.
- No Picks coming back

Just makes zero sense for SJ
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 20
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I imagine there is some combination of Blackwood for Campbell+ that works.


Bourgault 25 1st plus Campbell and if you want Kahkonen or Blackwood you can have either for a throw in. But neither have value IMO
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 21
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Shockingly, I have to say the Sharks would decline a Vlasic trade haha.

Broberg doesn’t have really any stock value, and we already are invested in :
Shakir Muk (Meier)
Thrun (traded picks)
Ferraro (eehhh he’s shown a lot of good and some struggles)
Plus we have Pulli Cicek (probably solid 3rd pair bodies in the near future) and Knyzhov (potential) and that’s just a few of our LD.

Taking on a 8.5m Campbell (Vlasics retention plus the term use on the ret. slot) just make it an easy pass.

Sharks can easily fit Campbell fully, now and for the foreseeable future. No need for Vlasic to bog down a deal.


Blackwood for Campbell plus _____ ?

Would picks alone suffice? 1st and 2nd maybe? Would they want another player? Or retention on Campbell?
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 21
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
I imagine there is some combination of Blackwood for Campbell+ that works.


Yeah, it involves you giving up at least a 1st + Bourgault, and the Sharks not trading Vlasic retained.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
Sharks shouldn’t do this deal. taking on Campbell for picks and a prospect? sure! Moving Vlasic and our final retention slot for multiple years + Blackwood (who has played much better than his numbers suggest) for Campbell and a bust is not smart.


100%
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 23
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Quoting: AStovetop
Absolutely terrible for SJ. Why would SJ do this? Genuinely curious.

- They can just ride out vlasic no problem. they can even waive him now that his NMC is over
- Retaining on Vlasic eliminates their last retention slot for this year and next, and then only one 3 years from now
- They're taking on a contract that's worse than Vlasics, considering the length of Campbell
- They only get one very mediocre asset back, in a position that's already logjammed with Thrun, Shakir, Okhotiuk, Ferraro, Gagnoni. Most of whom I'd take over Broberg.
- No Picks coming back

Just makes zero sense for SJ


The Vlasic piece was bridge too far and I regret it.

But I do think Blackwood would be interesting option for Edmonton.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 25
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Yeah, it involves you giving up at least a 1st + Bourgault, and the Sharks not trading Vlasic retained.


(I am not an Oilers fan, so don’t want anyone thinking I speak for them)

Campbell, 1st, 2nd for Blackwood…perhaps? Maybe with modest retention on Campbell.
7 nov. 2023 à 15 h 27
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Blackwood for Campbell plus _____ ?

Would picks alone suffice? 1st and 2nd maybe? Would they want another player? Or retention on Campbell?


My frame works (received mixed feedback from both fanbases so that means it’s generally close to a fair trade, realistic is a different question):

Campbell
2024 1st
Mix of 2nds/ Prospects

For Blackwood

The reason I don’t have a definitive point yet is cause I think the Oilers should also include Ceci and then immediately trade for Peeke for their 2nd/ Third pair.

I’ve been on:

Blackwood
Benning (depth little value added)
Peeke (from CBJ)

For

Campbell
Ceci
2025 3rd or 4th (goes to CBJ for Peeke)
2024 protected first
2024 2nd
2026 conditional 2nd or Xavier B

Essentially a first, value prospect like Xavier or Petrov, and a 2nd or so to dump Campbell and Ceci for Blackwood is almost. Steal imo. Helps both teams and if anything is light for SJS but closer to realistic interms of moving assets and getting a deal done, but maybe I’m wrong? Thoughts?
7 nov. 2023 à 19 h 57
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My frame works (received mixed feedback from both fanbases so that means it’s generally close to a fair trade, realistic is a different question):

Campbell
2024 1st
Mix of 2nds/ Prospects

For Blackwood

The reason I don’t have a definitive point yet is cause I think the Oilers should also include Ceci and then immediately trade for Peeke for their 2nd/ Third pair.

I’ve been on:

Blackwood
Benning (depth little value added)
Peeke (from CBJ)

For

Campbell
Ceci
2025 3rd or 4th (goes to CBJ for Peeke)
2024 protected first
2024 2nd
2026 conditional 2nd or Xavier B

Essentially a first, value prospect like Xavier or Petrov, and a 2nd or so to dump Campbell and Ceci for Blackwood is almost. Steal imo. Helps both teams and if anything is light for SJS but closer to realistic interms of moving assets and getting a deal done, but maybe I’m wrong? Thoughts?

Lol that’s ridiculous do you realize edmonton needs defensemen that actually know how to play defence so ur solution is to trade Ceci and trade for peeke? ceci is bad but he is way better than peeke and it’s not even close.
7 nov. 2023 à 20 h 3
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Lol that’s ridiculous do you realize edmonton needs defensemen that actually know how to play defence so ur solution is to trade Ceci and trade for peeke? ceci is bad but he is way better than peeke and it’s not even close.


Ceci > Peeke…no doubt.

Give Kemp a shot
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