That offer for Tanev is easily beat by others and we’re not just gonna throw in Greer either

What do you genuinely think you’re getting for Tanev

A 1st, a decent prospect & a 3rd is best case scenario for you

Yes, and a Better 1st, 3rd and Prospect at that than what’s typically being offered by TOR

Make it Liljegren (injured) + Jarnkrok + 3rd (so we can Trade for Peeke, Hakanpaa or some other replacement RD) + McMann (Albertan with Good Size) + Abruzzese (Coronato Connection) + Villeneuve (Poirier & Kuznetsov Connection) and we’ll consider Tanev 50% + Greer

How is that easily beat?? A 1st and 3rd is a genuinely good offer for a pending UFA top 4 D.

For example: Josh Manson returned a 2nd + prospect. David Savard returned a 1st. Both were pending UFAs at the time.

I'm sure some other team may bid higher, but what do you genuinely expect for Chris Tanev or a pending UFA top 4 defensive dman in general??

5 assets for a 33yr old & a bottom 6er who never hit over 15 goals🤣🤣🤣

Nah you can Keep him

You aren’t getting Lilly, McMann or Villeneuve

Flyers accept

Like the name, are you a Colby Covington Fan!?

Like I said above, they’ll be Better Quality = Earlier Picks than TOR’s and we’ll get a Decent Replacement Player and/or Prospect in return as well

And Sorry, but Savard and Manson are not even close to as good as Tanev, who’s a career +95. Sure, Savard is Huge and Blocks Shots, but he’s never been an All-Star or considered for the Norris ever like Tanev has

Manson’s best days were long passed by the time he got traded as well and he hasn’t been reliable or particularly good since. Neither of those guys can skate, have the Hockey IQ or can keep up to McDavid and stick check him off the puck or force the pass like Tanev can. There’s a reason you see Tanev in a ton of Trade Proposals on here and why there’s been none for Savard or Manson or really any other RD other than maybe Peeke, who can’t even make the lowly Blue Jackets Roster


Sure, we’ll either keep Tanev or Trade him elsewhere and TOR can just go with Lagesson the rest of the way, let’s see how that works out lol

I consider McMann & Villeneuve more warm bodies than assets really…. One’s a 27 year old AHL’er and the other is an undersized AHL’er; both are nothing special or should be considered to have any real value

The thing is, we don’t want to move Greer and may look to extend him, so unless we get a half decent Pick or Prospect in return, like Abruzzese, you’re not getting him

The way you overhyped Tanev is funny, the man is 33, he hasn’t been mentioned in Norris talks since 2-3 years ago, he is a Good Top 4 RD, not a Top RD, the market of people accquirung Tanev are likely Contenders so the difference in pick placement is very minuscule at best, 1-3 slots at most especially with the fact most teams that would look at Tanev would be in the West, his return is not as high as you think it is & it shows how much you for lack of a better term overrrate him, Liljegren is a 24yr old RHD who makes less than 2 mil & has team control afterwards, plus has played Top 4 & looked incredibly solid so there is literally 0 reason to trade him, As for The Flames if they were smart should rebuild rn, they have Alot of young guys about to breakthrough but not yet, add a Celebrini or Esierman & it could be great for them ofc you’d be fighting San Jose for that honor but that’s what I would do


Clearly you think there is some way they can contend if you think they’d resign a 33yr old Tanev.

a 1st + 3rd + prospect is likely the best you’re getting from almost anyone in the league, Chychrun got less & he is miles better, younger & with term so idk your logic to why Tanev needs to cost so much when i’ve looked at your AGMs & one literally shows Tanev 50% for a 1st & 3rd, You said Manson & Savard’s best days are behind them but so is Tanev’s, he is still a solid Top 4 D-man but he isn’t the stud he once was

Also there is like 2-5 teams at best proposing to acquire Tanev on this site

The Stars & The Leafs

You seem confused. Is Tanev good or is he not!?

And if he’s so old & washed up, a) why do you want him in the first place and b) why did you put him at 1RD

Flames don’t need to tear it down and rebuild, they just need to rid themselves of any disgruntled players in the locker room wondering or uncertain as to whether they want to be a Flame anymore and better/more consistent Goaltending

We’ll get a much better 1st RD Pick from BUF, VAN or EDM than TOR, NJD, DAL and so on who are all interested in his services. Not only will contending Teams want him, even if it’s as a rental, but any Team who has Young Up & Coming LD’s like we have in Solovyov, Poirier & Kuznetsov would love to have a guy like Tanev. You can’t find a better Shelter, Mentor and D-Partner for the Young Guys

You can generalize all you want, but age is just a number and Tanev is still the same D-Man he’s always been known for. For the reasons you mentioned above, Liljegren has value, but he’s nowhere near what the Leafs need if they’re going to push for the Cup. He’s too young and simply wasn’t trusted to be in the Leafs Playoff lineup the past two off-seasons and now he’s out with a broken ankle, so he’s useless to you. If you wanna talk about a player who’s over valued and over hyped though, that’d be Liljegren

Like I said before, go ahead and continue to use Lagesson or any other LD as your RD and see how that works out for you, Mr. Know It All

Buffalo has 0 need

Edmonton has 0 cap space

Vancouver looks fine with Hronek

🤦‍♂️

BUF desperately needs another Top-4 RD. Like Liljegren, Jokiharju and their LD’s just aren’t cutting it and the cheaper options (Lyubushkin & Clifton) have failed them

Similar to TOR, EDM definitely needs to upgrade their defence and we’d be willing to take Ceci back to make the Cap Work, so long as we got a juicy return for Tanev

VAN & Hughes want Tanev back. Teams want TWO RD’s in their Top-4, not just one

I put him at Top RD cause the Leafs can easily play him there with Mo & it’ll likely look like that on Paper but similar to a Schenn situation they’ll get 2nd Pair minutes while Brodie/Lilly & McCabe take the brunt of it tbh, the fact you think the flames are fine with only 2 good players in your Top 6 is funny, You think you need to retool & not rebuild which is laughable, you have numerous assets & can make a 1-2 season rebuild in all honesty, Eiserman or Celebrini is better than anything you currently have, your concept that you’ll get all these assets for multiple people is hilariously deluded, cause you’ve given no reason as to why, you’re expecting people to flock to you giving a bidding war for Tanev which is hilarious, Tanev is a pending UFA 34yr old, if you Think he’s gonna be greater for a long time then idk what to tell you, Lilly’s more crucial to the Leafs than Tanev is to Calgary that isn’t up for debate, he is a right shot D who’s 24 worth less than 2.5 & has team control, you say he hasn’t been trusted in the playoffs when he was still going through development pains, this season he started off great, was our 2nd best D-man but unfortunately he got injured with a high ankle sprain not a broken ankle, but still I digress, you act like like a 24yr old RHD has less value then a 34yr old🤣🤣🤣, Is Tanev good yeah he is but he is a pending UFA at 34 yrs of age, his best days are behind him, Lilly’s best days aren’t even there yet

God you’re naive

Hanifin fits better for Buffalo

Hanifin-Dahlin
Samuelson-Power


Your provincial rival isn’t giving you a pretty penny & idk who the hell you think even would be from that organization as a good return

As for Vancouver the Top 4 is doing just fine & Hronek has been incredible with Hughes so why overpay for a 2nd pair D-man you don’t need, i’d say they go get Zadorov or Peeke in all honesty as he fits their needs more on the back end whilst being cheaper to acquire apparently

You should probably stick to trying to figure out your lowly Maple Leafs needs and how they’re going to move on without Liljegren, given their obvious lack of Picks & Prospects and absence of any real interesting Trade Pieces

BUF should definitely solely use all LD’s in their Top-4 🤦‍♂️

There’s no point in continuing to go back & fourth here, since you’ve got it all figured out, so Take Care TOR!

Enjoy your rebuild

God, you’re wrong
All lefties in our top4, which we don’t wanna do

Also, we aren’t gonna extend Hanifin after we just gave HUGE $$$ to Dahlin & Power
So he really doesn’t make sense for us
Not gonna pay all that it would take to get him if he’s just a rental for us

The Sabres ARE NOT trading for Hanifin
The end

I genuinely see no issues with all Lefty’s in your Top 4 when they are great in either position(I love Buffalo’s D-core, though if I were them Pesce would be the guy I’d peruse), I’m also saying I doubt you’ll pay more for Tanev then a 1st +3rd & B prospect cause KingRnR seems to think Tanev is friggin Makar over there & worth more then any rental defensemen ever gets

You’re right, we won’t even pay a 1st + a 3rd for Tanev,
let alone MORE than that

BUT
To start the season, the Sabres actually broke up the Samuelsson-Dahlin combo that was our top pair
Why’d they try that?
Bc they don’t wanna go with LH-LH combos
Now they changed their minds & put the 2 back together,
but just them experimenting with the top pair should show you how they dislike the idea

BUT
Even if they completely change their minds & decide to go with a LH partner for Power…. Hanifin STILL doesn’t make sense
1- we aren’t gonna extend him to the big $$ contract he wants,
not after we just gave HUGE deals to Dahlin & Power
2- so that leaves Hanifin as a “rental” for us- and that just isn’t gonna happen. We won’t pay what it’ll cost to get him. We just aren’t in the place to be giving up good assets for rentals yet


We are more likely (imo) to trade for Tanev imo
But not at the absurd cost King RnR is talking about
There’s ZERO CHANCE we’d do that

Well at least we agree he is asking way too much, sorry to rope in a Sabres fan in this. Kinda got way too embridled in anger & just started going on about nonsense

No worries
King RnR actually asked me to weigh in on it
U guys are fine

No need to put too much effort into the debate though
We’ll just have to wait n see what happens

I agree, also hell of a game Saturday, it’s always a fun one

Indeed
NHL did a smart thing moving the Leafs to this division imo
Just makes sense