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Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 4 nov. 2023
Publié: 4 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Maybe there is a deal that helps both teams?
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MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Holloway, Dylan
Détails additionnels:
Campbell isn't a star goalie, but he is better than he's shown

Holloway needs a fresh start. The talent is there, but he has not found his game in the NHL.

Bourgault would be a nice add as a tweener this year and has top 9 upside for sure
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. Ylönen, Jesse
Détails additionnels:
Allen could probably help steal a few games in a platoon with Skinner

Matheson is so good. He skates fast and has incredible technique. He can play on your top pair and keep pace with McDavid

Ylonen has a great toolkit and needs a team to give him a middle role. Habs have few top end talent guys but tons of middle 6 guys
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $74 442 916 $1 170 000 $4 860 000 $9 057 084 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 4
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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UFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
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1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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812 500 $812 500 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
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RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA - 4
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DD
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
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UFA - 1

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4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 36
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EDM says no
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4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 38
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Oilers should
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EDM says no


Not even a discussion starter? You don't see how this makes the Oilers better in the short term?
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4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 41
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I agree. I doubt Kent Hughes would be willing to trade his old client, Matheson, though
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i don't this Edmonton has the cap space to take Matheson and Allen
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Not even a discussion starter? You don't see how this makes the Oilers better in the short term?


No because EDM doesnt have cap space, and Matheson has been horrible in other years before these first few games of the season. His contract is horrible
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4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 45
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No because EDM doesnt have cap space, and Matheson has been horrible in other years before these first few games of the season. His contract is horrible


He was awesome last season before his injury and pretty good the season before in Pittsburgh. So this is his 3rd good season in a row.

Nurse & Campbell's contracts are terrible. Matheson is actually a top 10 value contract in the league.
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He was awesome last season before his injury and pretty good the season before in Pittsburgh. So this is his 3rd good season in a row.


Its not worth giving up 2 good prospects though
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Its not worth giving up 2 good prospects though


You enjoying Holloway's play this season and last?
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You enjoying Holloway's play this season and last?


He's only 22tears of joy
4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 48
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It isn’t even enough to dump Campbell
4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 50
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It isn’t even enough to dump Campbell


Sure it is. Campbell is not a dump either. He is a decent 1B.
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i don't this Edmonton has the cap space to take Matheson and Allen


That's an S.E.P.
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i don't this Edmonton has the cap space to take Matheson and Allen


They don't it puts them about $2.5M over.
4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 57
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He's only 22tears of joy


I'm just saying, you value him pretty highly for a guy with 9 career points in the NHL.
4 nov. 2023 à 10 h 59
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That's an S.E.P.


I'm pretty sure it's yours as well since the league won't approve a trade that puts a team over the cap.
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I'm pretty sure it's yours as well since the league won't approve a trade that puts a team over the cap.


We can take another player back, but ultimately since they have all their picks, they can pay someone to take one of their bad contracts (Habs included)
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I'm just saying, you value him pretty highly for a guy with 9 career points in the NHL.


Okay but Slafkovský only has 11 in 49 games thats not far off either and he was a 1st ovr pick lol
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Okay but Slafkovský only has 11 in 49 games thats not far off either and he was a 1st ovr pick lol


He's 19. It's different than 22 as you well know. But yeah, most Habs fans would tell you they are disappointed at 19. Imagine having 0 points at 22.
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Sure it is. Campbell is not a dump either. He is a decent 1B.


He is a bad backup right now and he make 5m. Holloway and a first is the cost to dump him
4 nov. 2023 à 12 h 53
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This is certainly a conversation starter. Cap would need to be balanced and I'd say the positions of the players involved would need to get closer to balance (adding another LD without moving one is inoptimal) but it achieves a good deal of what EDM should be looking to achieve.
4 nov. 2023 à 14 h 45
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Best player in the trade is Matheson and allen is better than skinner or is certainly playing like it and has a cheaper cap hit... and Ylonen could be better than either of those prspects so thank god the gm of the habs wont do this trade. We have no need to move any of those players and moving them doesnt improve our team.. Holloway is a B prospect and Bourgault is a long shot for sure... and montreal has too many prospects of that quality already... This trade improves edm because matheson is better than most of their defense but they get two other good players as well.. yikes terrible trade
4 nov. 2023 à 15 h 36
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Best player in the trade is Matheson and allen is better than skinner or is certainly playing like it and has a cheaper cap hit... and Ylonen could be better than either of those prspects so thank god the gm of the habs wont do this trade. We have no need to move any of those players and moving them doesnt improve our team.. Holloway is a B prospect and Bourgault is a long shot for sure... and montreal has too many prospects of that quality already... This trade improves edm because matheson is better than most of their defense but they get two other good players as well.. yikes terrible trade


You lost me at Ylonen > 2 x former 1st round picks
4 nov. 2023 à 16 h 33
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EDM says no


Strange... Edmonton would be robbing Montreal blind in this scenario: Holloway+Bourgault hardly begins to compensate for Campbell's contract, so in no plausible way can the Oilers expect positive assets in return with such package!
6 nov. 2023 à 13 h 53
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You lost me at Ylonen > 2 x former 1st round picks


those former first rounders have not put up any numberrs in the nhl or big numbers in the ahl....so they are maybes at best while clearly matheson and allen are nhl players
 
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