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If there is one team that can trade elite talent for secondary scoring

Créé par: jonh514
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 20 oct. 2023
Publié: 20 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but the Oilers need more balance in their lineup. If you look at their early returns it's the same old story: after McD, LD, RNH, Hyman and Beaulieu, the rest of the team is like an anchor around their necks.

I really think they need to sacrifice one of their big 3 for a better balance of secondary scoring and defense, because just like the Leafs, this will never work in the playoffs.
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MTL
  1. Draisaitl, Leon
Détails additionnels:
Impact player that can help the Habs as long as they can resign him (assumes he's signed long term for 12M per)
EDM
  1. Guhle, Kaiden
  2. Monahan, Sean
  3. Newhook, Alex
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $78 619 583 $1 170 000 $3 775 000 $4 880 417 $
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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812 500 $812 500 $
AG, AD
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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890 000 $890 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 3

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20 oct. 2023 à 8 h 42
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Even if I take your premise as worth considering, it would take a whole lot more than that to get Drai. Would start with 1 of Suzuki or Reinbacher, the '24 1st, and a couple other roster players (which would vary dependent upon which of the first two was chosen). On the whole, though, MTL wouldn't be the team to trade with if EDM wanted to make such a trade.
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20 oct. 2023 à 8 h 54
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You think this offer gets you Draistaitl?
20 oct. 2023 à 9 h 0
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This is like half of what Drai takes. Throw in Reinbacher and Slaf
20 oct. 2023 à 9 h 4
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Why did you have to mention the Leafs?

Plus, the Leafs are at least better in the sense that they don't sign balloon contracts to anyone with a pulse
20 oct. 2023 à 9 h 10
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needing to add significantly to the trade without question, but also Draisaitl has been underpaid for years doubt he signs for less than 13.5-14.

For the package I would say adding slaf harris and another 1st would maybe make the oilers pause to think about it before they declined it.
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20 oct. 2023 à 9 h 15
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Sure, EDM should definitely trade a 50 goal, 120 point player making way less than he should for peanuts cause you simply can't win with those types of guys.

You say EDM should sacrifice one of their big three for a better balance of scoring, but you didn't offer them anything that resembles "scoring balance". The 1st two drafts away is hilarious too.

Hope this is satire, or some sort of "funny" response to a ridiculous Habs thread.
20 oct. 2023 à 9 h 49
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Lots of crazy here. A player like Drai would only be moved for a tier A all-star same age or future all star not younger than 22. Pasta, Rantanen, Fox, Dahlin, Petterson...
No devloping team can afford to throw 3+ prospects/ELCs/Pix for one guy. Even if it is a top5 player in the league.
Lol some of you guys expect the bell center to be included in this trade 🤣
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20 oct. 2023 à 10 h 20
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Why did you have to mention the Leafs?

Plus, the Leafs are at least better in the sense that they don't sign balloon contracts to anyone with a pulse


FWIW - I meant before the additions this offseason. I think the Leafs will do it this year!
20 oct. 2023 à 10 h 24
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Even if I take your premise as worth considering, it would take a whole lot more than that to get Drai. Would start with 1 of Suzuki or Reinbacher, the '24 1st, and a couple other roster players (which would vary dependent upon which of the first two was chosen). On the whole, though, MTL wouldn't be the team to trade with if EDM wanted to make such a trade.


I hear you on the fact that MTL is maybe not the ideal partner. MTL DOES have young (cost controlled) assets who will be under team control for a long time, so in that sense they are maybe a fit. They also MIGHT have the desire to do something like this in the offseason. I hear you about the value maybe being off. I included Newhook as he's our top scorer right now, Monahan because he's cost controlled for what he brings, and Guhle because he's awesome. But whatever the mix of players, I think there are player in MTL who are cost-effective and can help the Oilers get over the hump.
20 oct. 2023 à 10 h 26
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You think this offer gets you Draistaitl?


Probably not, but it's a discussion thread. The goal would be: "How do you turn Draisaitl into secondary pieces that give the Oilers a more balanced lineup that can win more games especially in the playoffs?"
20 oct. 2023 à 10 h 29
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FWIW - I meant before the additions this offseason. I think the Leafs will do it this year!


Fair...
but something's got to give for this team rn
20 oct. 2023 à 10 h 34
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needing to add significantly to the trade without question, but also Draisaitl has been underpaid for years doubt he signs for less than 13.5-14.

For the package I would say adding slaf harris and another 1st would maybe make the oilers pause to think about it before they declined it.


OK. We need to add. I guess I am making the point that rather than have 3 X 100 point players a team is better off with 2 X 100 point players and a few other 20-25 goal scorers who can actually play defence.
20 oct. 2023 à 10 h 37
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Quoting: Ritzy
Sure, EDM should definitely trade a 50 goal, 120 point player making way less than he should for peanuts cause you simply can't win with those types of guys.

You say EDM should sacrifice one of their big three for a better balance of scoring, but you didn't offer them anything that resembles "scoring balance". The 1st two drafts away is hilarious too.

Hope this is satire, or some sort of "funny" response to a ridiculous Habs thread.


Nope it was serious. But I take your meaning that the value is not enough. As a discussion, regardless of the value and assuming it's another trade partner not the Habs, do you agree with the premise that an overpowered top 6 without much invested in defense and bottom 6 players cannot win in the playoffs?
20 oct. 2023 à 12 h 15
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Probably not, but it's a discussion thread. The goal would be: "How do you turn Draisaitl into secondary pieces that give the Oilers a more balanced lineup that can win more games especially in the playoffs?"


Well why not try and make the trade fair at least?
 
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