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The only acceptable offer from MTL for Pettey

Créé par: TheDuminator
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2023
Publié: 11 oct. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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VAN
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Guhle, Kaiden
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
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Top 5 protected
MTL
  1. Pettersson, Elias
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 13
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Petey gets way more than 9.5 and thats not even close.
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 14
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Petey's contract will probably be 1.5-2 million more per season.

As well, I understand some people in montreal think Guhle is a top calibre Dman, but everyone outside of Quebec recognize he is a fringe top 4 prospect right now. replace him with reinbacher and canucks consider this more heavily.

also, protection on the pick? no chance
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 17
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Petey's contract will probably be 1.5-2 million more per season.

As well, I understand some people in montreal think Guhle is a top calibre Dman, but everyone outside of Quebec recognize he is a fringe top 4 prospect right now. replace him with reinbacher and canucks consider this more heavily.

also, protection on the pick? no chance


Yes top5 protection... not top 10.
Guhle is a stud and solid Top4... getting more and more offensive upside
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 19
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Yes top5 protection... not top 10.
Guhle is a stud and solid Top4... getting more and more offensive upside


Guhle is project and could easily top out at 3rd pair calibre. dach is a middle 6 centre or 2nd line winger. and then adding top 5 protection to the pick?

very limited upside for vancouver here and huge risk. pettersson is the most valuable trade chip vancouver has ever had. it will cost more than this
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 19
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Not even close on the trade or the contract
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 20
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One of -- Slafkovsky, Dach, Caufield, Suzuki
One of -- Reinbacher, Guhle
One of -- Beck, Farrell, Newhook, Hutson
One of -- 2024 1st, 2025 1st

...is probably the price just to get in the door

(Start at Eichel comp...and look up)
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 29
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This site is endlessly funny to me. People post a thread for EP from Columbus and it's Jirichek Johnston and a 1st and people say it's enough, then you come to a Habs post and it's Slaf, Reinbacher, Hutson and a top 5 pick to get EP. The bias is real
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 45
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
This site is endlessly funny to me. People post a thread for EP from Columbus and it's Jirichek Johnston and a 1st and people say it's enough, then you come to a Habs post and it's Slaf, Reinbacher, Hutson and a top 5 pick to get EP. The bias is real


its probbaly because jiricek johnson and a 1st is a better package than slaf reinbacher hutson and a first? lol
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 50
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Quoting: The_Rocket
Petey's contract will probably be 1.5-2 million more per season.

As well, I understand some people in montreal think Guhle is a top calibre Dman, but everyone outside of Quebec recognize he is a fringe top 4 prospect right now. replace him with reinbacher and canucks consider this more heavily.

also, protection on the pick? no chance


as a habs fan I agree on the guhle take fringe top 4 def earned his role in the top 6 but is fringe top 4. then again he basically had the same comparisons to sanderson just in a smaller sample and the dude got like 8.2 for 8yrs so if hes considered elite is guhle same?
mind u sanderson was on a ottawa senators whos d is strong in the top 4
id be more confortable sending
one of Beck Mesar
one of farrell Hieneman
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1rst 25
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one of Gally Anderson

Untouchables
-rienbacker -hutson -dach -suzuki -caufield -guhle -monty -newhook -slafkovsky -roy
Possible nice peices
-Davidson -Kidney -Barron -Harris -engstrom -rhp -ylonen -simoneau

send counter offer be aware mailloux no one probably wants but is really really solid prospect and is RH
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
One of -- Slafkovsky, Dach, Caufield, Suzuki
One of -- Reinbacher, Guhle
One of -- Beck, Farrell, Newhook, Hutson
One of -- 2024 1st, 2025 1st

...is probably the price just to get in the door

(Start at Eichel comp...and look up)


You stole what I was about to say
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 54
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You stole what I was about to say


If Josh Anderson can return Simon Nemec and a 1st.

Maybe I should be saying, "2.5 Josh Andersons"
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 54
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Quoting: DQavis
as a habs fan I agree on the guhle take fringe top 4 def earned his role in the top 6 but is fringe top 4. then again he basically had the same comparisons to sanderson just in a smaller sample and the dude got like 8.2 for 8yrs so if hes considered elite is guhle same?
mind u sanderson was on a ottawa senators whos d is strong in the top 4
id be more confortable sending
one of Beck Mesar
one of farrell Hieneman
1rst 24
1rst 25
1rst 25
one of Gally Anderson

Untouchables
-rienbacker
-hutson
-dach
-suzuki
-caufield
-guhle
-monty
-newhook
-slafkovsky

send counter offer be aware mailloux no one probably wants but is really really solid prospect and is RH


Counter offer is Montreal will not acquire pettersson. easy peasy
11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
its probbaly because jiricek johnson and a 1st is a better package than slaf reinbacher hutson and a first? lol


The Habs package is about double the Columbus package
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 57
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Guhle is project and could easily top out at 3rd pair calibre. dach is a middle 6 centre or 2nd line winger. and then adding top 5 protection to the pick?

very limited upside for vancouver here and huge risk. pettersson is the most valuable trade chip vancouver has ever had. it will cost more than this


I think Guhle looks very legit
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11 oct. 2023 à 14 h 59
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If Josh Anderson can return Simon Nemec and a 1st.

Maybe I should be saying, "2.5 Josh Andersons"


At least Matthews+ for Anderson

"He's big"
- A lot of Habs fans
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 1
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as a habs fan I agree on the guhle take fringe top 4 def earned his role in the top 6 but is fringe top 4. then again he basically had the same comparisons to sanderson just in a smaller sample and the dude got like 8.2 for 8yrs so if hes considered elite is guhle same?
mind u sanderson was on a ottawa senators whos d is strong in the top 4
id be more confortable sending
one of Beck Mesar
one of farrell Hieneman
1rst 24
1rst 25
1rst 25
one of Gally Anderson

Untouchables
-rienbacker
-hutson
-dach
-suzuki
-caufield
-guhle
-monty
-newhook
-slafkovsky

send counter offer be aware mailloux no one probably wants but is really really solid prospect and is RH


If they ask for Sam Montembeault, I'd walk.
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 2
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I think Guhle looks very legit


far from a guaruntee. huge downside risk
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 4
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At least Matthews+ for Anderson

"He's big"
- A lot of Habs fans


They don't call them, Wrad Wreliving or Wom Witzgerald
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11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
The Habs package is about double the Columbus package


lol
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 4
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Quoting: Herb_Brooks
lol


Eh the truth makes the simple minded laugh sometimes
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 5
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Eh the truth makes the simple minded laugh sometimes


classic delusional habs fans, never change fellas
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 6
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far from a guaruntee. huge downside risk


Maybe (probably true for almost any 21-yr old in NHL).

But I have been impressed with him.
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11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 7
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If they ask for Sam Montembeault, I'd walk.


all ik is mtls goaltending situation and in there system is so bad there is no one for the future so for now a 26yr old who has some flashes needs to work
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11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 10
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Which is better package?

A. CBJ: Jiricek, Johnson, 1st
B. MTL: Slafkovsky, Reinbacher, Hutson, 1st

I'm stumped. 4 good pieces is better than 3...but man, Jiricek and Johnston both look like they may be elite guys...so I'm leaning CBJ.
11 oct. 2023 à 15 h 13
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all ik is mtls goaltending situation and in there system is so bad there is no one for the future so for now a 26yr old who has some flashes needs to work


Allen in short-run
Add Dobes, Primeau for medium-term
Fowler is the future

Monty should be expendable imo
 
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