Jets kind of In a interesting place, if they trade or let scheifele/helly walk or some combination, nobody coming to replace the 6 plus million dollar contracts and the term and money of what helly/wheeler/scheifele have been paid or earmarked for. Kids aren’t ready for that term or money either, so kind of a rather interesting hole in the roster. So A. They overpay and overterm, helly/scheifele or 1 or the other, b. They sell and return cap and term back along with the picks and or kids, c. They tear it right down with cap dumps galore. All theory goes out the window with players asking out of town, but just kind of a interesting position, that not many teams have a similar experience.

Really don't understand why you would trade Kulich in this package. Think there's other pieces that could be added.

Kinda have to give up something of value for Kyle Connor

Yes, I understand that. But there's plenty of other pieces to choose.

One thing ive realized with buffalo fans is their refusal to move their young assets.

You have Skinner, Tage, Cozens, Savoie, Krebs, Kulich, Rosen, Savoie, JJ, Benson, Mittlestadt, Tuch, and more. You cant play them all. Its best to move one of them, or a couple.

And to get great players you need to move great prospects. And Kulich is one of them. You cant just pile on value and hope it works

I chose kulich.

Goal scorer for goal scorer

Oh I have No problem moving some talent for him, just don't think a 18yr old who just had a fantastic season in the AHL should be included. Have No problem moving Mitts, Rosen and probably either Krebs or Savoie in a deal.

That's cool, that's your right it's your AGM

If the Jets are moving Connor, they're rebuilding and would want young ELC players to build with. Which means Mittelstadt would be of no interest. Kulich and the 1st are a good start though.

so why didn't you offer value?

Mitts means nothing here.
Buffalo's firsts, in theory, will not be as valuable as they once were since this team should be in the middle of the pack, potentially not even lottery anymore.
Kulich is ok but isn't moving the needle for a guy like Connor - one of the most under the radar guys in the league.

1.) A 59 point guy (who for the purposes of this trade has a similar season) at age 25 under contract of course has value

2.) Kulich, one of the top prospects in the world who just had the best age 18 AHL season ever and whose ELC slid and could slide again this year of course "moves the needle"

3.) A first is a first.

A 1st, a high end prospect and a young top 6 player with term of course is a haul, you're just a hater

I agree to a point. If we are able to trade very good quantity for outstanding quality, of course I'm in. I think that's what this is. Hopefully mittelstadt has a decent year this year, I see him as a piece with value that we can move, plus there's still enough in his history that he shouldn't be in line for crazy money, which helps if he's due a contract.

not a hater. i'm looking forward to following Buffalo - watched some of these guys play the last few years in the AHL

if the Jets are moving Connor they don't want Mitts back - this is a rebuild, doesn't make sense - 59 points or not.
as for 1st's, 1-8 is a lot different than 15-22.
Kulich is a nice prospect - but i can't imagine a scenario in which the Jet's move Connor to Buffalo without getting one of Quinn, JJ or Savoie/Benson to a lesser extent.

all i'm saying is Connor is a PPG player that would instantly become Buffalo's 2nd best forward.
trading for a top tier player has to hurt - Kulich, Mitts and a first doesn't hurt, doesn't even really sting.

That's a very disingenuous statement. You can't possibly believe a top 10 pick has the same value as a bottom 10 pick.

GM's absolutely value them differently.

Teams don't often trade high picks for veteran players. Those teams are typically rebuilding.

Not every gm is as dumb as Dorion

Fine, but all first round picks do not have the same value. There is a massive difference between 1 and 32.

So, you have to account for Buffalo's 1st possibly not being as valuable next year as it would have been this year. GM's will.

I flat out posted what the pick is in the trade.

Right. Which contradicts your assertion that "a 1st is a 1st". Obviously they aren't the same if you felt the need to specify the location.

I put in the AGM that we were coming off a playoff appearance. Sorry for trying to be specific.

Again, teams aren't trading high picks for a guy 2 years from UFA at age 27. Didn't know i had to put that caveat in now 3 times

Awful Hellebuyck extension coming by Halloween, I'm calling it now... 🤮

Could there be a good extension for Hellebuyck? I really don't know what to expect.

In my opinion no there couldn't be a good extension for Hellebuyck, the only good Hellebuyck extension would be one he'd never sign.
I don't buy into he only wants to win, he wants to get his bank more then he wants to win.

Well, I don't think he's going to get the huge payday everyone had been attributing to him. Maybe they can get him for somewhere between 8 -8.5 for probably 5 years. I can't see him going for 4 or less but that would be preferred. I think I'd be okay with that, maybe even up to 9 or so depending on length.

It seems like a lot, but that's where contracts are heading.

2 matching 5x8 40 million contracts is my prediction, something similar to wheeler and little extensions.

Yeah thats too rich for me!..lol 😆