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Créé par: NucksnOilers
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 26 sept. 2023
Publié: 26 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Savard, David (1 750 000 $ retained)
MTL
  1. Ceci, Cody
  2. Lavoie, Raphael
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
*IF Savard is healthy and is back to at least his form in Tampa
2.
EDM
  1. Duclair, Anthony (1 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Kemp, Philip
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 117 500 $850 000 $4 725 000 $382 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
C
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 225 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $775 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1

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26 sept. 2023 à 13 h 59
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If Savard is playing at a level which garnered a 1st + as a rental w/ retention, he's not going to be traded by a rebuilding team w/ retention for a 2nd, a decent prospect they don't need, and a contract they don't want.

I doubt he'll be at that level again, but the if means Montreal passes.
26 sept. 2023 à 14 h 36
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I feel like this team is a top-6 forward away from the cup ... Duclair could be that top-6 forward for them
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26 sept. 2023 à 16 h 1
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Quoting: Burnout
If Savard is playing at a level which garnered a 1st + as a rental w/ retention, he's not going to be traded by a rebuilding team w/ retention for a 2nd, a decent prospect they don't need, and a contract they don't want.

I doubt he'll be at that level again, but the if means Montreal passes.


I understand what you're saying but it's more so if he can play like that a little bit in important over be that player all the time. You also have to account for age, injury concerns and consistency in the past. Maybe the 24'1st instead?
26 sept. 2023 à 16 h 5
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I feel like this team is a top-6 forward away from the cup ... Duclair could be that top-6 forward for them


I think they do need a middle 6 scoring winger but the thing that gets them over the hump rn is an experienced defensive d-man that can slide into that top 4 nicely
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26 sept. 2023 à 16 h 16
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Would way rather ceci than savard I hope none of these trades happen
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26 sept. 2023 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
I think they do need a middle 6 scoring winger but the thing that gets them over the hump rn is an experienced defensive d-man that can slide into that top 4 nicely


We need a RH version of Ekholm.
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27 sept. 2023 à 1 h 16
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Would way rather ceci than savard I hope none of these trades happen


Oilers aren't winning the cup with Ceci in the top 4. Duclair could put up 30 goals on Mcdavid's wing, if Savard is playing at a top level he is most definitely worth that package for Edmonton.
27 sept. 2023 à 6 h 13
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Ceci > Savard at this point. And you reference Savard's performance in Tampa, but he was highly sheltered there and didn't come out with good results even then. Anywhere he's played a top-4 role in the past 4 years (Columbus, Montreal) he has genuinely been one of the worth players in the league. So you just traded your 1st pairing guy for a 3rd pairing guy AND ADDED A GOOD PICK + PROSPECT.
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27 sept. 2023 à 6 h 15
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I feel like this team is a top-6 forward away from the cup ... Duclair could be that top-6 forward for them


Quoting: Drshnuckels91
I think they do need a middle 6 scoring winger but the thing that gets them over the hump rn is an experienced defensive d-man that can slide into that top 4 nicely


They have Nugent-Hopkins, Kane, Hyman and Brown as their top-6 wingers. I don't think that's an area of need.
27 sept. 2023 à 12 h 27
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Ceci > Savard at this point. And you reference Savard's performance in Tampa, but he was highly sheltered there and didn't come out with good results even then. Anywhere he's played a top-4 role in the past 4 years (Columbus, Montreal) he has genuinely been one of the worth players in the league. So you just traded your 1st pairing guy for a 3rd pairing guy AND ADDED A GOOD PICK + PROSPECT.


Fair enough but then who is going to fill that top 4 spot. Edmonton isn't going to be winning a cup with Ceci playing top pairing minutes even if he did, that defensive pairing crumbled last year when it mattered. I believe that Edmonton can win with Nurse playing top pairing minutes but not with Ceci, a change definitely needs to be made.
27 sept. 2023 à 13 h 4
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Fair enough but then who is going to fill that top 4 spot. Edmonton isn't going to be winning a cup with Ceci playing top pairing minutes even if he did, that defensive pairing crumbled last year when it mattered. I believe that Edmonton can win with Nurse playing top pairing minutes but not with Ceci, a change definitely needs to be made.

In camp they're running

Nurse-Bouchard
Ekholm-Broberg
Kulak-Ceci

Probably Ceci spends more time against Elite opponents than Broberg over the course of the season. But clearly Woodcroft is working to reduce the crazy workload Nurse-Ceci were facing.
27 sept. 2023 à 14 h 39
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Quoting: Drshnuckels91
Oilers aren't winning the cup with Ceci in the top 4. Duclair could put up 30 goals on Mcdavid's wing, if Savard is playing at a top level he is most definitely worth that package for Edmonton.

Ceci is better than savard so why would edmonton pay to downgrade I don’t understand it
 
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