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Pinto

Créé par: Danny_Canuck
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 18 sept. 2023
Publié: 18 sept. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Labanc, Kevin
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
2.
VAN
  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Rathbone, Jack
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (WPG)
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 479 028 $850 000 $880 000 $20 972 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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787 500 $787 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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786 111 $786 111 $ (Bonis de performance30 000 $$30K)
G
RFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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18 sept. 2023 à 10 h 48
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I just can’t wait until Pinto signs so we can stop all these awful trades
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18 sept. 2023 à 10 h 50
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That is quite possibly the worst return for Pinto I have seen on this site yet and I've seen hundreds over the past week. Well done.
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18 sept. 2023 à 10 h 51
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Modifié 18 sept. 2023 à 11 h 13
Quoting: Mike7856
I just can’t wait until Pinto signs so we can stop all these awful trades


Agreed. As an OTT and VAN fan I can say with certainty this is an abysmal trade for OTT. Rathbone is an incredibly meh player. If a player isn't good enough for VAN's 3rd pairing they sure won't make it in OTT.
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18 sept. 2023 à 10 h 58
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Everyone will understandably rag on the Pinto trade, but there's absolutely no way the Sharks send draft capital back to take on Myers either
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18 sept. 2023 à 11 h 34
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Rathbone and Dorian spotted at Kettleman's on Bank St Thursday so who's laughing now.
18 sept. 2023 à 11 h 35
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Rathbone and Dorian spotted at Kettleman's on Bank St Thursday so who's laughing now.


Then fix the rest of the trade… 2nd and a 4th???
18 sept. 2023 à 20 h 25
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Then fix the rest of the trade… 2nd and a 4th???


Honest question: what do you think he's worth in draft capital?
18 sept. 2023 à 20 h 39
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Honest question: what do you think he's worth in draft capital?


In terms of pure value, at the very least a 1st and a 2nd.

Considering that Ottawa doesnt want to trade him youd probably have to add something else a la Alex Newhook trade.
19 sept. 2023 à 11 h 14
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In terms of pure value, at the very least a 1st and a 2nd.

Considering that Ottawa doesnt want to trade him youd probably have to add something else a la Alex Newhook trade.


Interesting. Canucks definitely couldn't make that deal. That's more than it took to land JT Miller in his prime on a bargain deal.
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19 sept. 2023 à 17 h 42
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Interesting. Canucks definitely couldn't make that deal. That's more than it took to land JT Miller in his prime on a bargain deal.


The market has definitely shifted since then but keep in mind that Miller was 24 at the time of the deal and his best season totals 6 years in were 20 goals 50 points at 5+m/year. Pinto is 22 coming off a year lost to injury and a rookie season which saw him put up 20 goals and 15 assists and will hopefully sign for half of that. Also as I mentioned, Newhook is the same age from the same draft and held in similar regard to Pinto and just went for a 1st, 2nd and C level prospect.

Pinto is younger, cheaper and as a high floor right shot defensive minded center will provide value even if the production doesnt increase exponentially like Miller's did.
 
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