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Unique Ottawa deal

Créé par: Caniac2000
Équipe: 2023-24 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 31 août 2023
Publié: 31 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Stealing the Chatfield to Ottawa idea from this ACGM:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4547616

Kubalik and Thomson were in the original return, which makes no sense for Carolina. Defenseman for defenseman without an AHL affiliate doesn't do anything, and as good as Kubalik is, the wingers are already good enough. So the idea is Pinto. Drury is not much older and could fill the role, Carolina gets a guy who put up 20 last year.

For Pinto's contract, I just gave him Newhook's deal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 000 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Pinto, Shane [Droits de RFA]
OTT
  1. Chatfield, Jalen
  2. Drury, Jack
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $82 841 917 $450 000 $500 000 $658 083 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 1
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7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 6
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4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 675 000 $1 675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1

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31 août 2023 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Disagree, Lafreniere played the first half of the season with better linemates than Jarvis did. Lafreniere and Kravtsov were given RW roles in the top six, until Lafreniere was scratched. Jarvis also had a FAR better postseason. To have them have comparable totals and Lafreniere get moved down the lineup is not a good look. Not to mention, Jarvis didn't always play with Aho, just as Lafreniere didn't always play with Chytil or Zibanejad, or even Trocheck. Jarvis had the better season, and here's a nice colorful chart that kind of proves the point.

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Laffy P/60 at even strength: 1.61
Jarvis P/60 at even strength: 1.38

Yea Jarvis is gonna have better expected goals for and corsi for because of his better linemates and system Carolina plays lol

Laffy minutes with Mika: 101 minutes
Laffy minutes with Panarin: 170 minutes
Laffy minutes with Trocheck: 248 minutes

Jarvis minutes with Aho: 700 minutes
31 août 2023 à 16 h 17
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Needless to say that Ottawa has zero interest in this. They wouldn't trade Pinto for Chychrun and chose to give their 1st that was a non-playoffs first instead

Quoting: Caniac2000
No one is going to touch Joseph's contract. That leaves Kubalik and Brannstrom, but with every team knowing the cap hell the Sens are in, it leaves the organization backed into a hole. Kubalik's value isn't the greatest anyway. Brannstrom's has been falling since the second he got to Ottawa. Even if they could afford him, what are they going to do? His path into a top-six role is completely blocked.

A lot of misinformation here

Quoting: Caniac2000
This is either a really bad troll job, or you're incredibly anti-Canes

You're the one who created this ACGM and you say this?
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31 août 2023 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: Xspyrit
Needless to say that Ottawa has zero interest in this. They wouldn't trade Pinto for Chychrun and chose to give their 1st that was a non-playoffs first instead


A lot of misinformation here


You're the one who created this ACGM and you say this?


I feel like this was a really poor try at a trade they though was fair.

Or a really good troll job, and with some of there thoughts, I'm guessing troll job.
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31 août 2023 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Nikishin's fall in the draft I cannot explain. It did not look like a good pick when it was made, I cannot tell you what happened, but it happened.

Would you rather have a player that's the same age, same in skill and contract status that has never played a playoff game, or a player that is the same in skill and contract status that has won the Stanley Cup, has a ton of postseason experience, and can help guide others through what it takes to win? That's why it's important.

Newhook next year will be interesting. he may have the defensive restraints lifted, but in a system like Montreal, I do expect him to be a lot freeer. I could see an offensive outburst instead. Maybe 50-55 points, more if he's on the top line with Suzuki and Caufield. Pinto had better linemates last season than he likely will again after Norris' injuries. I'm just not seeing how he has that kind of explosion.


nikishkin fell because some player take just a bit more time to devellop. you cant just look at the potential at 18 years old and pretend to know their career, ceiling, floor or potential.

as for you question, its assume that they are the same, newhook and pinto, and they are not. there is about a 100 things i would consider while getting a player before ''were they on a team that won the cup''

newhook will for sure have a better offensive season with montreal, he will get more ice team.
 
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