So you are literally arguing with someone you made up in your head then

People floating he wouldn't sign but i guess these were all just in my head.

Whos your top five?

Yes. That has nothing to do with a rental situation.
Once again, you arent paying attention, made assumptions and got mad about those assumptions

Hint: check the year for this agm

He's neither a top-5 F or top-5 player. There's a case to be made for top-5 C, though.

However, I disagree that it's outside of the the realm of reasonable if Petey is demanding a trade. People have cited the Tkachuk deal but that featured a 28 & 29 year old as the key pieces and, as such, the nature of the trade and valuation is different. Johnson (assuming a ~60pt season from him) and the 1st (assuming around #10-14) are the central pieces and are a great foundation for such a trade.

I can see why Boqvist may be not that appealing due to his injuries. Would Mateychuk work better despite being another LD?
If we assume Sillinger bounces back (~35 point season as 3C), would you prefer him or another young F (Marchenko, Voronkov, etc)?

Your assumptions are off base.

This leaves out Draisaitl and all Dmen who need to be factored into the top-5 discussion.

Hows about this. Columbus declines and wishes you the best of luck finding someone willing to give up that kind of young talent for a solid player that has had one breakout year.

Still waiting on that top 5 in the world of yours.

You are a sad, strange little man

I was being generous and keeping it to F's for him. If we are honest Makar should be in the list purely on value over replacement. Also the only reason i leave dri's off is due to the Mcjesus factor. He is either with him of not facing the other teams top line due to him. NOT AT ALL saying hes not great just gets docked a few points. Kind of like how i dock Marner some also.

Still waiting

The very point of having this kind of discussion is to predict what players will do in advance and base our conclusions off such. If you'd like to posit a different set of hypothetical outcomes, you're free to.

However, given the nature of your responses to me, it seems there's no reason to attempt to discuss things.

O theres a reason. I want to see his top 5 in the world. That's one hell of a claim to make. O and if he's reading this.....still waiting.

Lol
If you want to know why I'm not being particularly engaging with you, one reason is because you assume that the 2025 pick is going to be a lotto pick.
2025. A pick I specifically slated out as a late pick.

If you (and that other poster) can't even get on the right page - there is no discussion to be had. So get off your high horse

The pick isn't the problem. It's the fact that you're wanting a guy who has a shot to be on our top d pair this season AND our very young coming off a solid rookie season with lots of room to grow AND a first.

Also still waiting for that top 5.

KJ, imo, is untouchable right now. Other CBJ fans think Jiricek is also untouchable but I'll allow it in this instance. A trade for Petey wanting out next summer would be around a Eichel return not Tkachuk since Calgary wanted to still compete so that trade really isn't comparable. This trade would be a mini retool and to shorten any rebuild Van would have to commit to (also similar to what Buffalo has done). With that you get the following:

- a 50 pt. a season player (23-25 years old)
- a young prospect (mid 1st round)
- mid 1st round pick
- mid 2nd round pick

Now lets say EP is worth more then Eichel was at that time (Which is true since Eichel had an unknown with his neck) so lets bump that "a young prospect (mid 1st round)" to a coveted prospect who was drafted at the top of the draft (Jiricek). Then you have Cole Silinger who is the Krebs part of this trade. Then you have the 2025 1st (which should be a mid 1st rounder) and then we add a 2nd the following year.

We get this as the final trade:

From Van:

- EP

From CBJ:

- Cole Sillinger
- Jiricek
- 2025 1st
- 2026 2nd

This is the most I can see Jarmo offering IMO. I know you, based off comments already, will hate this trade but for the sake of argument I thought I would add my 2 cents.

I don't see Jiri moving but this is much more inline with what i was thinking. I could see maybe a Stan or Maty replacing Jiri along with more on the picks end or another kicker prospect ie. Del bel or Dumais. I really don't see Jarmo moving a high end RHD since those are almost as rare as centers.

For a player of EP's caliber it takes one of KJ or Jiricek 100%. You do not get EP without one of them included and I rather trade Jiricek than KJ. But I suppose they can be interchangeable in a trade like this.

Fair enough. I would almost rather let KJ go than Jiri. In three or four years he could be in conversations with makar, fox, McAvoy. If you want to see the value of a RHD just look at Petry and Ellis getting 6.2

After all the so called experts on here with their Peety trades and views.One thing is certain.HE s a Canuck loves the city the team and has NEVER said he wants to go any where.This trade B.S. is fuelled by other fans with little knowledge of the facts.All the made up theories are just that Baseless wild guesses.JUST like the rest of us on here no one REALLY knows what will REALLY happen.Just my opinion.

Just to prove my expertise i did call the Provo trade wayyy back. lol

Seriously.That makes you an expert?

I thought Petey said he wanted to win?????

WIN IN VANCOUVER!!!!!!!!! Hes a Canuck.

That's a contradiction though