Kempe scores more goals than Nylander and is considerably cheaper. Why would the Kings do this?

He scored one more goal this year and one more the year before, prior to that it was Nylander by a landslide. That aside, I think the glaringly obvious answer here is that Nylander had 20 more points this year, 26 more the year prior, and considerably more working backwards from there. You actually save on the cap this year and get a cost-controlled replacement for Roy who should be cheaper for the next few years as well, while having more room to grow and potentially recoup assets later. If you take the cap you'd save by replacing Roy's next contract (which will include a raise) with 3 years of Brandt on his ELC then it's essentially a wash. If Kempe is truly still better than Nylander when it's time to resign Brandt than he would be making much more at that time with a rising cap. Kings deal from a position of strength (defense) to get better offensively, Leafs deal from a position of strength (offense) to get better defensively.

Nylander is going to ask for 10M+ and Lily will likely ask for north of 3M, how does this help the Kings cap-wise?

Roy will most likely take a team friendly deal around 4M. Kemper and Roy's extension will probably be cheaper combined than Nylanders extension alone.

Three seasons of Adrian Kempe is worth more to us than one season of Wiliam Nylander.

Three seasons of Adrian Kempe will cost us a LOT less than three seasons of William Nylander.

The chances of extending Adrian Kempe are MUCH higher than the chances of extending William Nylander.

Extending Adrian Kempe will cost us MUCH, MUCH LESS than extending William Nylander.

BONUS: We'd rather have Matt Roy than Tim Liljegren.

No, thanks. This is a horrible idea for Los Angeles.

Nylander will likely land around $9 mil, and that's if he's lucky.

You can make up numbers to support your argument all you want but Willy would likely sign in LA for 9 or less. Lily has done nothing to earn 3+ and is an RFA. 28 year old D-men whose 3 x $3.125 contract is all they've made above league min are not the players that take team friendly deals. He will get at least 5 and even if he were to take 4 it would make no sense for the Kings to resign him with Clarke and Doughty down the right side. You can keep Lily to help Clarke transition or you can just trade him for assets. If you flip him then Clarke + Nylander come in at about 8 mil this year and probably 10 the following 2 years. Roy and Kempe come in at about 8.6 this year and at least 10.5 afterwards. The point is you can deal from what is a strong right side to upgrade your forward core and add needed offense.

Thinking their combined hits would be less than Willy would mean they'd reaaalllly have to suck in the near future.

Like I said, Willy + Lily costs roughly the same as Roy + Kempe. If Kempe were to sign at the same time as Willy he'd be getting $2 mill less max, that's not MUCH MUCH LESS... Worse cap management would be signing Matt Roy to top 4 money with Clarke about to bump him to the third pair. Look at what you guys just traded to sign Dubois and Fiala. You gave away considerably more and got less cap value for roughly the same cap value, if not less. You're improving your team now and in the future without give any futures away AND the cap hit is still negligible.

Definitely not

Having Doughty, Clarke, and Roy is comparable to having Hedman, Sergachev, and McDonagh. That blue line won Tampa 2 cups. Keep trying...

Kings have no use for Nylander when they have Kempe, Fiala, Dubois, Arvy, Kopi, Byfield, and Kaliyev.

Keep trying to convince Kings fans that it makes sense for LA lol

Hand over the drugs, no chance Roy and Kempe combined will cost more then Nylander on his own, I wouldn’t even consider paying Nylander 9M though, he’s getting 8M from me IF I’m feeling generous

Plus you’re forgetting LA has no longterm solution in net and adding Nylander won’t give them the ability to find one

That's comparable is it? ha... ha.... Think you might be overrating Roy a bit there bud! Durzi and Lily would be fine replacements to upgrade at forward. The only way the statement about the forwards is logical is if they all outscored him, when none of them did.... highest goal scorer had 40 goals 67 points, highest point producer had 23 goals 72 points.

Willy had 20 more points than Kempe and 20 more goals than Fiala. Toffoli had one more goal and 20 fewer points than Crosby, by your logic apparently they're the same player.

No chance that a player who is currently making $5.5 and a player whose comparable's come in at $5 plus will be more than WIlly. Do we need drugs to do simple math now?

You just put Roy as your #1 RD, I don't think I'm overrating him.

Let the Leafs fans keep thinking the way they do, It's why they never make it out of the first round. We know the value we have they don't.

I love his asking price keep going up lol. By the beginning of the season Willy's ask will be 26 million a season.

As funny as this conversation is I think the deal just makes no sense for either team. The Leafs are arguably giving up the two better players.

The Kings are giving up cost certainty on high end assets for what? A one year run at the cup? They can't resign Nylander.

You keep blindly ignoring the inescapable fact that "Willy + Lily" is a mirage. Whether in three years Kempe plus Roy have the same collective cap hit as Nylander plus Liljegren is utterly irrelevant because Los Angeles can't afford Nylander in 2024. It's really very simple.


Bingo.