Another Nylander

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Créé par: MikeyVC97

Équipe: 2023-24 Blackhawks de Chicago

Date de création initiale: 24 août 2023

Publié: 24 août 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Transactions

CHI

Détails additionnels:

Would be done only if Nylander is going to resign with the Hawks

TOR

Johnson, Tyler (2 500 000 $ retained)
Raddysh, Taylor
Reichel, Lukas
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (TOR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2026 (TOR)

Rachats de contrats

Josh Bailey: 2 666 667 $
Brett Connolly: 1 166 667 $
Henrik Borgström: 183 334 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jake McCabe: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
Tyler Johnson: 2 500 000 $ (50%)

Frais appliqués

Duncan Keith: 1 938 456 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	73 084 157 $	0 $	5 212 500 $	10 415 843 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hall, Taylor 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Bedard, Connor 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) C RFA - 3	Nylander, William 6 962 366 $6 962 366 $ AD NMC UFA - 1
Savoie, Samuel 878 333 $878 333 $ (80 000 $$80K) AG RFA - 3	Kurashev, Philipp 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 2	Athanasiou, Andreas 4 250 000 $4 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2
Donato, Ryan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 2	Foligno, Nick 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, C, AD UFA - 1	Perry, Corey 775 000 $775 000 $ (325 000 $$325K) AD UFA - 1
Katchouk, Boris 758 333 $758 333 $ AG RFA - 1	Dickinson, Jason 2 650 000 $2 650 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Blackwell, Colin 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Vlasic, Alex 916 667 $916 667 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG UFA - 1	Jones, Seth 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 7	Söderblom, Arvid 962 500 $962 500 $ G RFA - 2
Tinordi, Jarred 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Murphy, Connor 4 400 000 $4 400 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Mrázek, Petr 3 800 000 $3 800 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Kaiser, Wyatt 916 667 $916 667 $ (425 000 $$425K) DG RFA - 2	Timmins, Conor 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DD RFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Phillips, Isaak 859 167 $859 167 $ (32 500 $$32K) DG RFA - 1	Guttman, Cole 950 000 $950 000 $ C RFA - 1	Roos, Filip 925 000 $925 000 $ DG RFA - 1
Zaitsev, Nikita 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
Entwistle, Mackenzie 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, C RFA - 1

24 août 2023 à 11 h 16

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I like this for the Leafs

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 22

Leafsfan98

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

I like this for the Leafs

Quick question: Does Johnson have 1 year left? If so, I really like this for the Leafs

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 22

MikeyVC97

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

Quick question: Does Johnson have 1 year left? If so, I really like this for the Leafs

Yes he is a UFA after this season.

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 23

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IMO, it's years too early for the Hawks to do something like this. Three high picks, plus Raddysh (who likely can be traded for more high picks), and Reichel (who could be a piece of the Hawks' long-term future) is WAY too much. I'm thinking a move like this could be something to complete a competitive roster (a la bringing in Hossa) AFTER building that competitive roster. And coughing up that many high picks could seriously and negatively impact the rebuild.

To say nothing of retaining on TJ (who may also be a TDL move for yet another high pick).

Bottom line, IMO: at best, this is too soon for the Hawks. At worst, it could derail the rebuild.

24 août 2023 à 11 h 25

Leafsfan98

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Quoting: MikeyVC97

Yes he is a UFA after this season.

Than this deal is exactly what I wanted for the Leafs... They get a player that will help them now, a player close to coming into the lineup and can easily be a star... get a 1st and get 2 2nds... Chicago doesn't mortgage their rebuild and keeps Bedard happy and gradually become more competitive, it's a win-win IMO

24 août 2023 à 11 h 28

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

My thoughts exactly. There will be some Hawks fans who will hate this deal because the think Reichel is the 2nd coming of Kane but I would rather aquire Nylander sign him build the team with him as part of the Hawks core. Nylander is only 27, his Dad and Brother both played for the Hawks I think he would love playing on the right side of Bedard for the next few years.

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 29

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Quoting: MikeyVC97

And it's not like the Hawks are in a cap crunch, unlike the Leafs, and can sign Nylander to that 8.5 mill+ extension to add to their core

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 33

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

And it's not like the Hawks are in a cap crunch, unlike the Leafs, and can sign Nylander to that 8.5 mill+ extension to add to their core

The Hawks have a ton of cap space because they have no core!

Like I said, too early - at best.

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 35

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Quoting: LivingAnew

The Hawks have a ton of cap space because they have no core!

Like I said, too early - at best.

So why not build one? You would have Bedard, Nylander, your 2024 1st guy, Korchinski and Nazar, and that's off the top of my head... That's a nice core

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 42

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Quoting: LivingAnew

IMO, it's years too early for the Hawks to do something like this.

I agree, they're still reasonably 3 years away from being a real contender. There is a real temptation to try to become a contender overnight by throwing money around, but even for a legit star-caliber guy like Nylander I'm not sure that hurling a bunch of money and assets at him will accelerate the process much.

Similar argument against spending big this summer - people were acting like overpaying the likes of Tyler Bertuzzi would make this a playoff team when in reality it would just create tomorrow's cap problems.

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 46

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Quoting: Leafsfan98

So why not build one? You would have Bedard, Nylander, your 2024 1st guy, Korchinski and Nazar, and that's off the top of my head... That's a nice core

A core consists of TEAM of proven NHLers, IMO. Nylander would be the only member of the core you just named who has even played one NHL game! No prospect is a guaranteed, core player (except prolly Bedard).

At this point, the Hawks "core" might be Bedard and S. Jones. Adding Nylander would make three. That's not a core, IMO - it's a start.

The rebuild like the one on which the Hawks have embarked will likely take three to five years. To build a "core" requires hitting on a lot of high draft picks and a lot of luck. Then would be the time to add a FINAL piece to the puzzle.

Hey, I could be wrong... Reasonable minds can disagree. Cheers!

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24 août 2023 à 11 h 50

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Quoting: LivingAnew

A core consists of TEAM of proven NHLers, IMO. Nylander would be the only member of the core you just named who've even played one NHL game! No prospect is a guaranteed, core player (except prolly Bedard).

At this point, the Hawks "core" might be Bedard and S. Jones. Adding Nylander would make three. That's not a core, IMO - it's a start.

The rebuild like the one on which the Hawks have embarked will likely take three to five years - for starters. To build a "core" requires hitting on a lot of high draft picks and a lot of luck. Then would be the time to add a FINAL piece to the puzzle.

Hey, I could be wrong... Reasonable minds can disagree. Cheers!

Yeah, this is year 2 IMO, the Hawks have a bunch of guys coming up and it's not like Toronto's 2025 pick will be a lottery one... Or Chicago's in dire need of Tyler Johnson... obviously no prospect is guaranteed... But if you're an A+ tier one, you're more than likely going to make it IMO. I forgot Jones was onto the Hawks... That's another guy who'll be there for a long time

I do agree with the last sentence though... Cheers!

24 août 2023 à 12 h 47

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