Why is our top shutdown D worth a 3rd and a cap dump?

Cause his contract sucks even for 1 year. He is owed 2.5mill more than his Cap hit. And the pick is going the wrong way.

lol MLSE isn't Arizona. There is some serious brainworms on here about trading Brodie for scraps

Sure

Because Leafs fans hate their own players and always want new shiny toys to play with?

Strange but true, but even getting rid of the chaff, Leafs are 1.2mil over the cap.

Theres only four players who make that kind of coin: Jarnkrot, Reaves, Domi, Klingberg, Kampf, with 4 of them being recently signed. Theres little value for jarnkrot and our bottom 6 looks incredibly weak without him.

So while Brodie has talent and is a good player, hes also a FIVE mil UFA to be. And theres few teams (rebuilding) that have cap space and want an expiring UFA. In an ideal world, Brodie is worth a 2nd or more based on talent alone, but in the present day when theres no buyers for an expiring 5mil guy?

Yes Brodie has talnt, yes Brodie is worth far more than that, but to who? In this case the small returns probably are better to the club. Leafs need to get under the cap soon and while brodie would get far more at TDL, can you move him then if hes your top shutdown defender? Of course not, you're going for the cup.

So without weakening the forwards, creating needed cap space and getting a draft picks for TDL, this seems logical. Lyubushkin is not a Brodie, but hes more of a mccabe, he played well for us before, might be a solid partner for Reilly AND it gives you cap space, ability to improve the 3rd pairing and take a flier on a guy like Pulijarvi or a Motte to improve the weak bottom 6 of the forwards. Its also about acquiring/keeping some culture change with some hard nosed, two way guys like Seeler, Jarnkrot, Lyubushkin.

These are examples, but based on what they have now, the meagre help in the AHL, the lack of draft capitol for the TDL: Lyubushkin, Seeler, a Pulijarvi/Josh Bailey, a meh pick and cap space seems to be more of what they need than watching 33 yr old Brodie walk for nothing at the end of another disppointing season because the team has no depth.

there are way better options than dumping our top pair shutdown D for scraps. Boosh is a bottom pair guy, I like him but he's best suited for the 3rd pair (and is overpayed) 5 mill for Brodie is good value, he's a top pair defenseman taking on top comp and doing well, 5 is good value.

Why even bother trading him? If they were sellers, for sure trade him at the dealine for a 1st + but the leafs are a playoff team.

here are some better alternatives:
1) go into camp and if there is an LTIR-able injury the problem solves itself (see last year)
2) waive/trade one of Timmins or Lafferty
3) trade Jarnekrok

I likely wouldn't pick 3 since they're contending. Assuming there is no Nylander trade (which also should be a good hockey trade not a cap-dump) I'd do option 1 and have option 2 as a back-up

I just think its unrealistic that the leafs wont be a contender at the TDL, which eliminates ANY possibility of being a seller (nylander, brodie, etc...).

Your suggestions of dropping timmins and lafferty aren;t wrong, but the team would still be over the cap with no depth. Waiving lafferty or timmins, you'd still need a league minimum body, so you're downgrading and saving 400k? The leafs have done this before with lge minimum scubs and every time they had to pay through the nose at the TDL for depth, and it wasn;t enough.

As history has shown the leafs, they can not afford to not have depth in their forward lines, they paid dearly for depth throughout the team at the TDL and have few assets to do the same this year. Sure the leafs could drop lafferty and/or timmins, play weaker guys and they can try to run through the season on a 20 man roster, but theyve done that before and it hasnt worked.

I know hes one of the best dmen on the squad, but watching him walk for nothing on another early exit because the team has no cap space or depth is probably the result. If you ignore the fact the results havent really changed, and when it comes to brodie ignore that hes 33, ignore hes a UFA, ignore that he had a meh playoffs, ignore we probably wont re-sign him, and ignore the fact that we either have to play RD Klingberg, Liljegren and see what we have with Timmins, it makes more sense to move a guy (we didnt just sign) that creates the cap space to make other improvements

As it stands they have to drop at least 1 guy making over 1.2mil, (which really is only jarnkrot), at least in my idea I'm trying to make the team better. Dropping Jarnkrot which seems to be the popular answer, leaves who on the 3rd line that is good 2 way and a lock for 30+ pts.

Leafs are about $400k over the cap with a 21 man roster, that 1.2 includes Robertson on the IR. I'd rather not move Lafferty or Timmins which is why they likely do what they did last year and see if there is an injury in camp.

sure we need forward depth in the playoffs, but it think it's better to a) see if any Marlies step up (Robertson/Hirvonen/McMann/Abruzzese) or b) make a TDL move rather for F depth rather than moving a top pair D man for scraps so you can sign a couple 3rd liners.

Just saying "results haven't changed" isn't a good reason to make a bad trade. If they want to change the culture they should break up the core-4 (for a reasonable trade of course) not the guy that took a good deal to come here and be the most consitent steady presence on the back end. If he walks he walks. I'll take a year of Brodie then he walks over a 3rd and Boosh at 2.75 (who also could walk)

Don’t worry
The Sabres don’t want Brodie & we aren’t helping you with your Cap problems anyways

Pretty fair value. The Leafs have "lots" of forwards they can send up and down without waivers, so I would keep Timmins and not sign Pujajarvi.
If Seeler is truly a good NHL Dman, think the Flyers would keep him and try to sell high at TDL.
Now I wouldn't want to lose Brodie,,,,but as Hammer posted, the Leafs get 2.25m in cap to fill out roster. 5m Brodie, got 2.75m Lubyshin,, and then 2.25m to let's says keep 1.1m Timmins and a 13th forward..
Obvioulsy the Brodie and Lubyshin exchange favours Sabres on the ice,,, but the Leafs get 2.25m for two more roster spots.
Nice thought on the post.

"Sabres don't want a top pair Dman who plays both sides for basically nothing, we don't want to help your cap issue that can be solved pretty easily without a trade"

The leafs make everyone on here a crayon eater. If I posted a trade of a 3rd and a depth piece for Chris Tanev people would think I'm out of my mind. Do it for Brodie (whos arguably better, and can play both sides) and it makes sense

Except Brodie is NOT a “top pair” QUALITY defenseman
Neither is the guy u compare him to (Tanev)
And he’s not as good as Tanev either, Lol
You’re a total homer though, so good for you & your delusions

And no, we don’t want him
Our top2 pairs are set & we don’t want a $5mil 3rd pair guy
He would be a good 3rd pair guy, but not for $5mil
But u guys keep him in the top pair & see how your playoffs go….


And even if your Cap was “easily fixable”
The Sabres are NOT helping u clowns out with it,
find someone else

Also, if it was so EASILY done, that why hasn’t it been fixed yet?
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Nice try though, rookie

Troll harder bud

lol
Of course that’s your response


Sorry u can’t handle that Brodie isn’t NEARLY as good as u thought

Sabres don’t want him- the End
Deal with it

glad the spokesperson for the Sabres came on here to tell me they don't want T.J Brodie.

All leafs players are worth nothing in trades and then when it's contract time they all are worth so much money. Trolls and idiots on this site. Such a great tool wasted on people who just come on here that hate the leafs more then they like there own team

Omg! You’re soooo persecuted
Must be such a rough life having the whole world against you

Don’t worry
You are right, & EVERYONE ELSE is wrong
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And it’s not JUST the Sabres
NOBODY wants Brodie
Otherwise, he’d have been traded 🤣🤣🤣