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Garlander plus for Nylander

Créé par: MaxBorjshlapsky
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 1 août 2023
Publié: 1 août 2023
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I think Vancouver and Washington are definitely destinations Nylander is interested in so either he gets traded there woth the condition to sign an extension or he signs there as a UFA next summer, if he gets 60 points this season and the Leafs make it far but his playoff points and Performance are less than 2023 then he won't get $10M and if he is traded soon then he will probably get the aho treatment or high 9's and if he annihilates next season then he could get $10M per at least if he gets 100 points but you never know.
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1 août 2023 à 14 h 7
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You add protection and VAN might do it as long as he gets an extension
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1 août 2023 à 14 h 21
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I just wouldn't want to pay Nylander what he'll demand so I'd say no to this. If he's going to get 9-10 mil I wouldn't want that as a free asset personally. Much rather have the picks and cap space.
1 août 2023 à 14 h 26
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Quoting: BigShoots
I just wouldn't want to pay Nylander what he'll demand so I'd say no to this. If he's going to get 9-10 mil I wouldn't want that as a free asset personally. Much rather have the picks and cap space.


100% fair not a believer that he's worth that kind of bank let me say personally even though they kind of are on a pay cut I'd rather have Alex tuch, couzens, Thompson from Buffalo or even stutzle I think is under $8M different kind of players better attitudes ot seems than Nylander and he's going to get over $9M but top guys are getting $10M I think Jeff skinner even makes $9M+ but I see what you are saying that's for sure he's not a paycut type guy lol at all.
1 août 2023 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: Warpbox
You add protection and VAN might do it as long as he gets an extension


Protection? That unprotected pick is the only thing of value in this deal. You don’t get elite players like Nylander by giving up garbage. The pick would have to land in the top 5 in order for it to even be in the same conversation to acquire Nylander
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1 août 2023 à 14 h 29
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Quoting: Warpbox
You add protection and VAN might do it as long as he gets an extension


Yeah I think his trade is contingent on a contract extension agreement for sure
1 août 2023 à 14 h 31
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Protection? That unprotected pick is the only thing of value in this deal. You don’t get elite players like Nylander by giving up garbage. The pick would have to land in the top 5 in order for it to even be in the same conversation to acquire Nylander


Top 5 protected probably makes sense and healthy boeser, Miller, Nylander and Petterson, demko team probably doesn't land in the bottom 5...that would be the point I assume
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1 août 2023 à 14 h 32
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Protection? That unprotected pick is the only thing of value in this deal. You don’t get elite players like Nylander by giving up garbage. The pick would have to land in the top 5 in order for it to even be in the same conversation to acquire Nylander


This troll who keeps posting these is just next level eh. Borjshlapsky is addicted to getting love from fans of other teams who also hate the leafs. It's ridiculous
1 août 2023 à 14 h 32
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
Top 5 protected probably makes sense and healthy boeser, Miller, Nylander and Petterson, demko team probably doesn't land in the bottom 5...that would be the point I assume


Once again, Nylander for scraps that do nothing to help a win now team.
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This troll who keeps posting these is just next level eh. Borjshlapsky is addicted to getting love from fans of other teams who also hate the leafs. It's ridiculous


Here we go the thread ruiner has arrived
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1 août 2023 à 14 h 48
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I'm not giving up Timmons. This is his year. You don't throw away 6'2 Right shot Dman.
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I'm not giving up Timmons. This is his year. You don't throw away 6'2 Right shot Dman.


I respect the Timmins appreciation I just think he hasn't proven enough so still unknown things and Foote and a couple other available ufas in their early to mid 20s have more nhl experience plus niemela is knocking on the door big time...Vancouver might be a better spot to get more playing time and I put Timmins as their 6 defenseman over there.
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I respect the Timmins appreciation I just think he hasn't proven enough so still unknown things and Foote and a couple other available ufas in their early to mid 20s have more nhl experience plus niemela is knocking on the door big time...Vancouver might be a better spot to get more playing time and I put Timmins as their 6 defenseman over there.


He put up more points per game then Lilly did, and I also think there is a defensive upside to Timmins. smile An interesting deal that I'd be interested to see smile Put Lilly up instead, and you possibly get a big Lshot Dman smile
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Protection? That unprotected pick is the only thing of value in this deal. You don’t get elite players like Nylander by giving up garbage. The pick would have to land in the top 5 in order for it to even be in the same conversation to acquire Nylander


VAN doesn't need wingers, VAN can't trade unprotected firsts, and wingers in general don't get huge value. If it costs an unprotected first you just move on
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He put up more points per game then Lilly did, and I also think there is a defensive upside to Timmins. smile An interesting deal that I'd be interested to see smile Put Lilly up instead, and you possibly get a big Lshot Dman smile


Hmm ok those are some good points because I want timmins to play I just wasn't sure if i want him to play on the Leafs, I kind of accept liljigren also so I guess maybe they both will get in there next season you're opening my eyes to the fact that Timmins would probably be good as a everyday player and if he proves it all year long then there's no need to be concerned about him...so in this deal you can remove Joshua and timmins and unsign Foote and I that would be the deal I would go with but I really like Joshua too so maybe a different player and I don't think you want to start the season with niemela in the lineup just in case smarter to make sure he is still lighting up the ahl first...
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VAN doesn't need wingers, VAN can't trade unprotected firsts, and wingers in general don't get huge value. If it costs an unprotected first you just move on


Wouldn't even do it if it's a top 25 protected 1. Nylander will cost $$$. We have enough dollars invested in wingers.
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1 août 2023 à 15 h 13
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Wouldn't even do it if it's a top 25 protected 1. Nylander will cost $$$. We have enough dollars invested in wingers.


Would you sign him as a ufa If you had the $$$?
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Would you sign him as a ufa If you had the $$$?


Nope. Nothing against the player, but a team can invest so much in one position. Already have Kuzmenko, Mikehyev, Boeser, Pearson, Miller(?), and Garland.
1 août 2023 à 15 h 24
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Nope. Nothing against the player, but a team can invest so much in one position. Already have Kuzmenko, Mikehyev, Boeser, Pearson, Miller(?), and Garland.


Ok I gotcha because if you said yes then it would be a contradiction.. right on.
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Broski's I changed the trade slightly..
1 août 2023 à 15 h 43
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Quoting: MaxBorjshlapsky
100% fair not a believer that he's worth that kind of bank let me say personally even though they kind of are on a pay cut I'd rather have Alex tuch, couzens, Thompson from Buffalo or even stutzle I think is under $8M different kind of players better attitudes ot seems than Nylander and he's going to get over $9M but top guys are getting $10M I think Jeff skinner even makes $9M+ but I see what you are saying that's for sure he's not a paycut type guy lol at all.


He's just not a playoff guy. He's not a guy you go out an target when you already have cap issues and are a soft team.
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He's just not a playoff guy. He's not a guy you go out an target when you already have cap issues and are a soft team.


Valid.
1 août 2023 à 16 h 11
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VAN doesn't need wingers, VAN can't trade unprotected firsts, and wingers in general don't get huge value. If it costs an unprotected first you just move on


My comment wasn’t so much about needing to have an unprotected 1st, I realize it’s more realistic to have protection on it - but my point was that this is a garbage offer and the only valuable piece in it is the unprotected pick.

Garland has been shopped for well over a year and no one has taken the bait yet. Why would he all of a sudden have enough value to be the main player for Nylander? .. he wouldn’t. There’s just nothing interesting about this idea for Toronto. They’re looking for defensive help IF they move Nylander and Vancouver doesn’t have anyone to fit what they’re looking for.
1 août 2023 à 17 h 25
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Here we go the thread ruiner has arrived


So sorry, I'll let you have fun with the rest of your leaf hater buddies
1 août 2023 à 17 h 26
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Quoting: GreatWhiteNorth
My comment wasn’t so much about needing to have an unprotected 1st, I realize it’s more realistic to have protection on it - but my point was that this is a garbage offer and the only valuable piece in it is the unprotected pick.

Garland has been shopped for well over a year and no one has taken the bait yet. Why would he all of a sudden have enough value to be the main player for Nylander? .. he wouldn’t. There’s just nothing interesting about this idea for Toronto. They’re looking for defensive help IF they move Nylander and Vancouver doesn’t have anyone to fit what they’re looking for.


I don't know if it's defensive help, more a change in the style of the defence. I think Treliving wants some meanness back there. If he trades Nylander for a mean defenceman, I will stop being a fan because that would be utterly horrible.
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Quoting: BigShoots
He's just not a playoff guy. He's not a guy you go out an target when you already have cap issues and are a soft team.


Nylander isn't a playoff guy? Borjshlapsky is the champion of fans who hate the leafs for sure. Just irrational hate.
 
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