Detroit accepts easily... but idk why Buffalo would part w/ Savoie

I think it definitely makes sense for Detroit as Savoie is a right shot skilled center which they need. Sabres don't really need him and actually need a center like Veleno who is a bottom six center who can really skate and is better defensively.

It makes no sense for Buffalo. We arent parting with Savoie, you make him sound expendable which he isnt, especially not for scrap parts. Veleno is not good, the biggest thing of his career so far was stomping on a player in the WC and rightfully getting suspended. We have tons of better centre prospects and players to play 3C. And Savoie is a far better skater than Veleno btw and no slouch defensively, so if we needed what you describe we would again just keep Savoie

It makes no sense for Buffalo. We arent parting with Savoie, you make him sound expendable which he isnt, especially not for scrap parts. Veleno is not good, the biggest thing of his career so far was stomping on a player in the WC and rightfully getting suspended. We have tons of better centre prospects and players to play 3C. And Savoie is a far better skater than Veleno btw and no slouch defensively, so if we needed what you describe we would again just keep Savoie

Savoie krebs benson going to drive teams nuts

Krebs is a major bust

Any time I see one of the Sabres young centers mentioned in a trade fans are up in arms. Both Thompsen and Cozens are locked up long term, so you have Krebs, Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund and Whalberg all fighting for 2 NHL spots, most teams could just move them to the wing but you just as many prospects coming up there. So what's the plan keep them as AHLers?

He is who he is, effort/defensive/120 foot game/. Offensive game lacking, but going to be a glue guy going forward, do all the little things right. Good leader and veteran to show savoie and benson the ropes.

I wouldn’t say Krebs “offensive game has been lacking”
We use him in such a defensive role, it should t be surprising that his offensive numbers are “meh”
Guy plays on a line with our Captains against the other teams’ best offensive players

I think Krebs has been developing really nicely
And as Cozens & Quinn continue to develop their defensive games, you’ll see their line take some defensive responsibilities & free up Krebs to use his offensive talents more

Any time I see one of the Sabres young centers mentioned in a trade fans are up in arms. Both Thompsen and Cozens are locked up long term, so you have Krebs, Savoie, Kulich, Ostlund and Whalberg all fighting for 2 NHL spots, most teams could just move them to the wing but you just as many prospects coming up there. So what's the plan keep them as AHLers?

Got a little defensive with the major bust label getting thrown around lol

When i see comments of that nature,
that are just that ABSURD,
I don’t even bother with the guy who posted it
Bc the chances of having a reasonable convo with him are slim-none

Savoie almost certainly starts on the wing, & could very well stay there
Kulich as well
Krebs can play Center or the wing

The other u mentioned are YEARS away,
& we have plenty of time to figure out where they fit in


Can we fit EVERYONE?
No, obviously not
But it’s also not an IMMEDIATE issue we need to figure out
We’ve got time

Been pulling for krebs since junior, was hoping my jets were going to latch onto him, they never seem to grab anyone I like out of junior though, even if they are sitting there when they pick. So Vegas run to the podium for krebs, even when he’s rehabbing an off-season knee injury, has to say something. He would be a absolute force if he was 6’2

I think he’ll end up being a really good 2way Center for us
Cozens line is gonna start taking more of the tough defensive situations off the hands of the Krebs line
I expect to see a very modest boost in Krebs offense this year
And then a more significant boost next year

Next year is when i see Krebs really getting some freedom to focus a bit more on offense & develop his 2way game,
as opposed to just (basically) playing the defensive Center role he currently is in

It’ll also help (likely next year) when Krebs gets some more offensive minded linemates
He’s been playing (mostly) between our Captains- Okposo & Girgensons- who are 2 of our most reliant league defensive forwards
But as we have young talent come up & figure more into the lineup, the more Krebs will have to play off of in an offensive manner

For example:
Someone above suggested a line of Benson-Krebs-Savoie
That line WILL score- & score a lot
But it’s only one example of the possibilities we have coming soon

I actually expect Kulich to get decent callup time this season
*he might even make the roster right out of camp (with Quinn hurt for a bit)
And he’s got a pretty good 2way game, so i could see him & Krebs gel nicely together
They also both play Center & the wing, which is true of most of our young forward talent we have coming


Sorry to ramble, lol

If you look at the players locked up past this season you have Skinner, Quinn, Mittelstadt, Tuch, Greenway, and Rousek on the wings, you add Krebs and savoie that fills all 8 wing positions. Then that leaves Rosen, Benson, Neuchev, and Nadeau without a roster spot to fight for. It's a great problem to have, but there are just too many high quality players and not enough roster spots.

All good enjoy the passion, I’m a jets fan so only get majority of the conversation about them, with some leafs and oilers flames mixed in. Don’t get a whole lot of any where else. I’m liking this Buffalo build, follow Winnipeg and Brandon pretty closely in junior, so have seen a lot of savoie and benson, and a little bit of krebs. Little worried that savoie was going to get hurt bad when he came in as a kid, looked so small, but so fast. Got rocked the first time out against Brandon, but seemed to improve every season since. Too bad the ice moved to Washington state. But Buffalo definitely got some players coming

Sure
And like i alluded to- SOME of those guys u mention will be moved

But it’s also NOT an IMMEDIATE situation we need to figure out
Savoie & Benson, for example, will spend more time in juniors then they probably need to
Rosen & Nadeau will likewise spend more time in the AHL then they really need to

There’s no RUSH on our end to get ANY of these guys into the Sabres lineup
You’re acting like we need to find spots for ALL these guys by NEXT season, & that’s simply not true


But yes, like I’ve already admitted, we don’t have room for EVERYONE
We have an absurd amount of young talent here already,
with more coming
So moves absolutely will have to be made

They just need to be moves that actually make sense, unlike many of the suggestions thrown about on this site
We aren’t dumping our young talent for “rentals” for example
*see that ALL THE TIME here

I thought for sure 13 pick benson was going for a Comrie/upl upgrade to partner with Levi for 3/4 years of a tandem similar to the bruins situation the last few years. But benson was a gift at 13

We certainly will need to tweak things as we move forward the next few years
But as long as the goaltending works out for us,
we should be in really great shape moving forward

Exciting time to be a Sabres fan for sure


Speaking of Winnipeg….
I’m floored u guys haven’t had more success
Especially with Hellebuyck holding down the net for u guys
Seems to me like u guys are at a point where you’ve gotta decide if you’re gonna totally scrap it & rebuild,
or if you’re just gonna try to retool quickly & stay playoff contenders

What’s going on with the Jets in your opinion?

Sure
And like i alluded to- SOME of those guys u mention will be moved

But it’s also NOT an IMMEDIATE situation we need to figure out
Savoie & Benson, for example, will spend more time in juniors then they probably need to
Rosen & Nadeau will likewise spend more time in the AHL then they really need to

There’s no RUSH on our end to get ANY of these guys into the Sabres lineup
You’re acting like we need to find spots for ALL these guys by NEXT season, & that’s simply not true


But yes, like I’ve already admitted, we don’t have room for EVERYONE
We have an absurd amount of young talent here already,
with more coming
So moves absolutely will have to be made

They just need to be moves that actually make sense, unlike many of the suggestions thrown about on this site
We aren’t dumping our young talent for “rentals” for example
*see that ALL THE TIME here