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Créé par: JTBF81
Équipe: 2023-24 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 18 juill. 2023
Publié: 18 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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TBL
  1. Niederreiter, Nino (2 000 000 $ retained)
WPG
  1. Fortier, Gabriel
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2026 (TBL)
2.
TBL
    Chicago retains an additional 33% of Niederreiter's contract. Any team works here though.
    CHI
    1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2283 500 000 $84 052 500 $0 $0 $-552 500 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
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    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
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    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
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    UFA - 4
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    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 8
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
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    3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 6
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    800 000 $800 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
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    800 000 $800 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    800 000 $800 000 $
    C, AD, AG
    UFA - 2
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    2 665 000 $2 665 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
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    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 8
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    5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 8
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    775 000 $775 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
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    775 000 $775 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    762 500 $762 500 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    775 000 $775 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
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    6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Lightning de Tampa Bay
    850 000 $850 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1

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    18 juill. 2023 à 13 h 47
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    Not sure if anyoneone would spend 1.32 million to buy a 5th round pick, but it won't be the Hawks who own way to many better picks in the next couple drafts and would not burn their 2nd of 3 retention slots for that.
    18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 8
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    Quoting: wojohawk
    Not sure if anyoneone would spend 1.32 million to buy a 5th round pick, but it won't be the Hawks who own way to many better picks in the next couple drafts and would not burn their 2nd of 3 retention slots for that.


    It would be 667k for a 5th. At absolute best, to any team, it should be a 4th, but a 5th is definitely in range, especially talking just one season of retention. The retention slot is a factor,but the value is in line.
    18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 17
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    Modifié 18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 25
    Quoting: JTBF81
    It would be 667k for a 5th. At absolute best, to any team, it should be a 4th, but a 5th is definitely in range, especially talking just one season of retention. The retention slot is a factor,but the value is in line.


    Ohhh....you mean 33% after Winnnipeg retains half. Yes the value is fair, but I still doubt Hawks would have any interest. First, that 5th would be the 16th highest pick in the next 2 draft for the Hawks. Burning a 2nd retention slot when the Hawks have 2 left and a bunch of pending UFA's with significant cap hits to potentially move at the deadline for in theory higher picks is not ideal. Last, with the Hawks holding the Tampa 1st, the last thing they should be doing is helping them in any way field a better team.

    I would guess someone will retain that for a 4th/or 5th....just doubt it is the Hawks.
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    18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 18
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    WPG says... NO.
    18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 27
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    Quoting: wojohawk
    Ohhh....you mean 33% after Winnnipeg retains half. Yes the value is fair, but I still doubt Hawks would have any interest. First, that 5th would be the 16th highest pick in the next 2 draft for the Hawks. Burning a 2nd retention slot when the Hawks have 2 left and a bunch of pending UFA's with significant cap hits to potentially move at the deadline for in theory higher picks is not ideal. Last, with the Hawks holding the Tampa 1st, the last thing they should be doing is helping them in any way field a better team.

    I would guess someone will retain that for a 4th/or 5th....just doubt it is the Hawks.


    Yes, it was my error on the wording/placement of the trade parameters. I went ahead and adjusted it.
    18 juill. 2023 à 14 h 28
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    Quoting: WPGSK
    WPG says... NO.


    Tampa may change the prospect or improve the mid round pick, but Niederreiter doesn't have that much more value.
    18 juill. 2023 à 15 h 53
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    Quoting: JTBF81
    Tampa may change the prospect or improve the mid round pick, but Niederreiter doesn't have that much more value.


    WPG(SK) isn't asking for more value, they're saying Nino is not on the table.

    He is much more valuable to WPG though because he's a good player that helps them compete now, but more importantly, he doesn't mind being in Winnipeg.
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    18 juill. 2023 à 17 h 26
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    Quoting: CF18GM
    WPG(SK) isn't asking for more value, they're saying Nino is not on the table.

    He is much more valuable to WPG though because he's a good player that helps them compete now, but more importantly, he doesn't mind being in Winnipeg.


    I guess if he wants to stay in Winnipeg, but after trading Dubois and possibly losing Hellebuyck, I didn't see Winnipeg as a major contender this year. If they still planned on just a quick re-tool, I can see them trying to extend Niederreiter, but they could also trade him as a rental for more assets to help if more of a.re-build is the plan.
    19 juill. 2023 à 14 h 50
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    Quoting: JTBF81
    I guess if he wants to stay in Winnipeg, but after trading Dubois and possibly losing Hellebuyck, I didn't see Winnipeg as a major contender this year. If they still planned on just a quick re-tool, I can see them trying to extend Niederreiter, but they could also trade him as a rental for more assets to help if more of a.re-build is the plan.


    Quoting: CF18GM
    WPG(SK) isn't asking for more value, they're saying Nino is not on the table.

    He is much more valuable to WPG though because he's a good player that helps them compete now, but more importantly, he doesn't mind being in Winnipeg.


    @CF18GM is correct on all points. I'm a huge fan of Nino, always have been. He works hard, says the right things, and can play up and down the line up and leads by example. The next gen of Jets NEEDS to see guys like Nino leading the right way. The future Jets need to see guys like Nino, not Scheifele, Connor, etc... floaters who play a 50' game. Nino is the role model the kids need. He's far too valuable. He was a steal at the trade deadline and is worth far more than some random whatever player and mid / late round picks.

    People want to say... you only paid a 2nd for him, so that's all he's worth. He may be worth a 2nd rounder, but it would have to be a 2nd round pick that's in the 30's at worst. I would say he's more of a good prospect or couple of 2nds right now or a 2nd and 3rd at least.
     
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