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Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 12 juill. 2023
Publié: 12 juill. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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What would it cost to get Laf?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 350 000 $
33 000 000 $
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OTT
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [Droits de RFA]
NYR
  1. Brännström, Erik (500 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 234 047 $0 $1 850 000 $265 953 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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916 667 $916 667 $
DG
RFA - 2
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805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 2

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12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 33
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Batherson or Kubalik with retention and a 1st. No need for Brannstrom
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 35
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Batherson or Kubalik with retention and a 1st. No need for Brannstrom


I could see kubalik, but batherson is a better player in a really good contract. Also teams won’t go near him until everything with the 2018 team has come out
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 39
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Honestly why go through the motions of trading anyone..... with NYR cap issues you realistically offer sheet Laf at 3.1 mill and only give up a 2nd to get him while keeping everyone else and if the Rangers match their cap situation is in dire straits
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 42
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They need a cheap winger (preferably RW) who will put up 40+ points on top of draft picks
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 44
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He's not being traded.
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 51
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Honestly why go through the motions of trading anyone..... with NYR cap issues you realistically offer sheet Laf at 3.1 mill and only give up a 2nd to get him while keeping everyone else and if the Rangers match their cap situation is in dire straits


Easily can match 3.1 and run a 21 man roster, which many NHL teams do these days. Would need to offer sheet over 4mil
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 53
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Easily can match 3.1 and run a 21 man roster, which many NHL teams do these days. Would need to offer sheet over 4mil


It's possible, but if injuries happened it would put even more constraints on a not as deep team as they were last year. Which as a Pens fan would make me very happy
12 juill. 2023 à 11 h 56
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The absolute best thing for NYR would be if some team offered him 4x4.5 or whatever. They'd just be doing their work for them while also opening themselves up for payback. There is no OS they don't match, and they have plenty of people they can move.

He's not available. He's got more ESG than Stutzle despite playing almost no Top 6 minutes. Ottawa payed Stutzle 8.35m. Any OS in the realm of possibility is a NYR win and immediate match. It's not rocket science.
12 juill. 2023 à 12 h 3
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The absolute best thing for NYR would be if some team offered him 4x4.5 or whatever. They'd just be doing their work for them while also opening themselves up for payback. There is no OS they don't match, and they have plenty of people they can move.

He's not available. He's got more ESG than Stutzle despite playing almost no Top 6 minutes. Ottawa payed Stutzle 8.35m. Any OS in the realm of possibility is a NYR win and immediate match. It's not rocket science.


Plenty...? It'd literally just be Goodrow we can move, and even he has a M-NTC to get in the way. Goodrow is the only guy to move that makes any sense to block an offer sheet.
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12 juill. 2023 à 12 h 18
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Plenty...? It'd literally just be Goodrow we can move, and even he has a M-NTC to get in the way. Goodrow is the only guy to move that makes any sense to block an offer sheet.


There are 8 players that are eligible for the next buyout window. Buying out Trouba would be addition by subtraction. Lindgren is also likely playing his last year with NYR. They could pay to move Goodrow if they need to. They haven't tried to move him because they want him on the team.

There is no sense in "blocking" an OS. If anything you're kinda hoping for someone to do your business for you.
12 juill. 2023 à 12 h 24
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There are 8 players that are eligible for the next buyout window. Buying out Trouba would be addition by subtraction. Lindgren is also likely playing his last year with NYR. They could pay to move Goodrow if they need to. They haven't tried to move him because they want him on the team.

There is no sense in "blocking" an OS. If anything you're kinda hoping for someone to do your business for you.


They just named Trouba captain. How is buying him out and leaving the RD in shambles "addition by subtraction"? Luckily the Sather years are gone. There's no way they will buy him out. Really none of the other buyouts have any relevant cost savings right now. Trading Goodrow is the only move.

By "block" I meant "match", same thing...

Lindgren will definitely be re-signed to a 4-4.5mil contract next year
12 juill. 2023 à 12 h 45
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Easily can match 3.1 and run a 21 man roster, which many NHL teams do these days. Would need to offer sheet over 4mil


Even then we’ll match Lmao, Laf is a priority over goodrow…. Pretty easy to figure out what we’d do here
12 juill. 2023 à 13 h 4
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Even then we’ll match Lmao, Laf is a priority over goodrow…. Pretty easy to figure out what we’d do here


Of course he is, but making a trade happen with our backs against the wall wouldn't be ideal. I think you can be 10% over the cap until September, which we should be depending on the off sheet. But teams will have us by the balls and we could end up paying assets to unload, which wouldn't be ideal.

I was hoping Drury would've signed Miller and Laffy at the same time to prevent this handcuffing
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12 juill. 2023 à 15 h 6
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That'd be a pretty good return for the Rangers. That pick could end up good and Brannstrom is a young rising 2-way D-man

That's a gamble Sens can afford to take since they are stacked on LHD and still have their first round picks going forward

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Batherson or Kubalik with retention and a 1st. No need for Brannstrom


Like if Batherson and Kubalik had anywhere close the same value? lol
12 juill. 2023 à 15 h 6
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That'd be a pretty good return for the Rangers. That pick could end up good and Brannstrom is a young rising 2-way D-man

That's a gamble Sens can afford to take since they are stacked on LHD and still have their first round picks going forward

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Batherson or Kubalik with retention and a 1st. No need for Brannstrom


Like if Batherson and Kubalik had anywhere close the same value? lol
12 juill. 2023 à 15 h 40
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That'd be a pretty good return for the Rangers. That pick could end up good and Brannstrom is a young rising 2-way D-man

That's a gamble Sens can afford to take since they are stacked on LHD and still have their first round picks going forward



Like if Batherson and Kubalik had anywhere close the same value? lol


More looking at a replacement winger vs an unneeded defenseman, I know they are very different. And Batherson with retention (to make the cap work for NYR) would need more added from NYRs side.

Ultimately I don't think it's a good fit, that was pretty much my point

TBL is also around a 20th overall pick, and it's not supposed to be a deep draft next year... so not even close as is
12 juill. 2023 à 15 h 58
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More looking at a replacement winger vs an unneeded defenseman, I know they are very different. And Batherson with retention (to make the cap work for NYR) would need more added from NYRs side.

Ultimately I don't think it's a good fit, that was pretty much my point

TBL is also around a 20th overall pick, and it's not supposed to be a deep draft next year... so not even close as is


Sens are not trading Batherson. His contract is needed as much as many other teams in cap crunch

Not sure why you're talking about TBL too
12 juill. 2023 à 16 h 10
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Sens are not trading Batherson. His contract is needed as much as many other teams in cap crunch

Not sure why you're talking about TBL too


My apologies, thought the 1st pick was TBL for some reason
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12 juill. 2023 à 20 h 23
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Honestly why go through the motions of trading anyone..... with NYR cap issues you realistically offer sheet Laf at 3.1 mill and only give up a 2nd to get him while keeping everyone else and if the Rangers match their cap situation is in dire straits

Honestly though about an offer sheet, but offer sheets don’t ever happen in the nhl so landed in a cheap player with upside and a draft pick

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Honestly why go through the motions of trading anyone..... with NYR cap issues you realistically offer sheet Laf at 3.1 mill and only give up a 2nd to get him while keeping everyone else and if the Rangers match their cap situation is in dire straits


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Honestly why go through the motions of trading anyone..... with NYR cap issues you realistically offer sheet Laf at 3.1 mill and only give up a 2nd to get him while keeping everyone else and if the Rangers match their cap situation is in dire straits
13 juill. 2023 à 10 h 47
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They just named Trouba captain. How is buying him out and leaving the RD in shambles "addition by subtraction"? Luckily the Sather years are gone. There's no way they will buy him out. Really none of the other buyouts have any relevant cost savings right now. Trading Goodrow is the only move.

By "block" I meant "match", same thing...

Lindgren will definitely be re-signed to a 4-4.5mil contract next year


Captain doesn't mean anything. This is a multibillion dollar industry. You're not keeping from making an essential decision because your last coach had a C sewn into his jersey.

Paying Lindgren 4.4x6 is dumb AF and you should have someone else pay that, not NYR. He's not Carlo, Marino or Severson. He's good, but he's not irreplaceable and not worth paying market value for.
 
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