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Créé par: RussianRangers9
Équipe: 2023-24 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 29 juin 2023
Publié: 29 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
33 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
11 500 000 $
2900 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Krug, Torey
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (STL)
STL
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. Lindgren, Ryan
  3. Robertson, Matthew
  4. Sýkora, Adam
  5. Trocheck, Vincent
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2025
Logo de STL
Logo de DAL
Logo de NYR
Logo de MIN
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
2026
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de NYR
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 402 916 $610 892 $482 500 $97 084 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Rangers de New York
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 437 500 $4 437 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
11 642 857 $11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 3
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Logo de Rangers de New York
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
828 333 $828 333 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
AG
RFA - 2
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Logo de Rangers de New York
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
766 667 $766 667 $
C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Rangers de New York
5 666 667 $5 666 667 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
775 000 $775 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
812 500 $812 500 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Rangers de New York
787 500 $787 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Rangers de New York
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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29 juin 2023 à 14 h 27
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1. Bread makes too much to be 3LW. Put his bald head at 1RW.

2. It’s not 2016 so brass and steps have little to no business in the lineup on a regular basis. Gotta move on from the nostalgia of guys that played well here a long time ago
29 juin 2023 à 14 h 31
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Are we seriously STILL doing this?
29 juin 2023 à 14 h 44
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Quoting: NYR1983
1. Bread makes too much to be 3LW. Put his bald head at 1RW.


Panarin plays a game that is very successful in the regular season but not so much in the playoffs. If NYR keep leaning on his 82 game production as an easy ticket to the playoffs, they're going to continue to be disappointed. If he's your tertiary scoring threat, that's a contender. It's time to take the training wheels off.
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29 juin 2023 à 15 h 23
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Blues say no
29 juin 2023 à 15 h 30
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Panarin plays a game that is very successful in the regular season but not so much in the playoffs. If NYR keep leaning on his 82 game production as an easy ticket to the playoffs, they're going to continue to be disappointed. If he's your tertiary scoring threat, that's a contender. It's time to take the training wheels off.


Ya, he’s a top 5 guy when it comes to scoring. Not sure any team puts a top 20/30/40/50 guy on the 3rd line but maybe it works. He’s been stuck on lines with guys like Strome, Copp, senko and trochek. Maybe playing with Zibby and kreider will be better. They are elite compared to the others. *proper 1C who could use the proper support on his wing and one of the best breakaway and tip in guys in the league. Marner and rantanen are both guys that are similar to bread… doubt they ever see the 3rd line. They are elite linemates
29 juin 2023 à 16 h 44
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Ya, he’s a top 5 guy when it comes to scoring. Not sure any team puts a top 20/30/40/50 guy on the 3rd line but maybe it works. He’s been stuck on lines with guys like Strome, Copp, senko and trochek. Maybe playing with Zibby and kreider will be better. They are elite compared to the others. *proper 1C who could use the proper support on his wing and one of the best breakaway and tip in guys in the league. Marner and rantanen are both guys that are similar to bread… doubt they ever see the 3rd line. They are elite linemates


Rantanen is nothing like Panarin lol. The situation with Marner is the same as this one. it locks up Toronto and they would benefit from the same approach, as they are also lacking depth and run out of effective options when their crutches get disabled in the playoffs.

I personally advocate for bread to move to the right to give Lafreniere top 6 minutes. But if they bring someone else in, or he refuses to move to the right, I think it's a better move for the team for them to make it to the playoffs without relying on top line bread because he won't be as impactful in the playoffs.
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 9
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Rantanen is nothing like Panarin lol. The situation with Marner is the same as this one. it locks up Toronto and they would benefit from the same approach, as they are also lacking depth and run out of effective options when their crutches get disabled in the playoffs.

I personally advocate for bread to move to the right to give Lafreniere top 6 minutes. But if they bring someone else in, or he refuses to move to the right, I think it's a better move for the team for them to make it to the playoffs without relying on top line bread because he won't be as impactful in the playoffs.


Rantanen, marner and panarin are all high end play makers. They are all very similar.
29 juin 2023 à 17 h 47
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Are we seriously STILL doing this?


I dunno -

This is never going to happen but I would probably do this. Study should immediately be fired if he traded. I h and then paid this return to get him back though…
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 2
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I dunno -

This is never going to happen but I would probably do this. Study should immediately be fired if he traded. I h and then paid this return to get him back though…


You wouldn't. Do the value breakdown and the cap picture. This creates more problems than it solves, and it actually does solve one big one.
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 9
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You wouldn't. Do the value breakdown and the cap picture. This creates more problems than it solves, and it actually does solve one big one.


I looked at it. Cap is fine. Also would need to factor long term, Buch is going to get at least the Thomas/Kyrou contract. This trade would really fill cupboards, give them two good LHD men, and Trocheck and Goodrow combined could do what Buch does…
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 14
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I looked at it. Cap is fine. Also would need to factor long term, Buch is going to get at least the Thomas/Kyrou contract. This trade would really fill cupboards, give them two good LHD men, and Trocheck and Goodrow combined could do what Buch does…


Quoting: mokumboi
You wouldn't. Do the value breakdown and the cap picture. This creates more problems than it solves, and it actually does solve one big one.


Oh ya - and a certain height leveraged dman is going out the door here…
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 18
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Oh ya - and a certain height leveraged dman is going out the door here…


Yeah, and you're taking two bad, longer contracts that cost more now and later for players we have no use for.
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 24
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Yeah, and you're taking two bad, longer contracts that cost more now and later for players we have no use for.


The Blues would have a use for both Goodrow and Trocheck - cmon now. They’re not bad players. Trocheck is actual really good and only 29. Don’t care that he’s signed for 6 more years - that’s the cost of doing business in nhl plus the cap is going to be increasing dramatically soon.
29 juin 2023 à 18 h 26
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The Blues would have a use for both Goodrow and Trocheck - cmon now. They’re not bad players. Trocheck is actual really good and only 29. Don’t care that he’s signed for 6 more years - that’s the cost of doing business in nhl plus the cap is going to be increasing dramatically soon.


Heh. Do the value breakdown/cap picture. You'll see the light.

All Goodrow and Trocheck would do is block our best prospects, and weigh down the bottom six cap burden for yeeeears.
 
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