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Cat to Dallas

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2023
Publié: 20 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 600 000 $
21 700 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
13 500 000 $
Transactions
OTT
  1. Bourque, Mavrik
  2. Marchment, Mason
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 252 380 $0 $2 275 000 $247 620 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $
C
RFA - 2
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
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900 000 $900 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
RFA - 1
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870 000 $870 000 $
AG
UFA - 1

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20 juin 2023 à 10 h 40
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not ideal but I could see Ottawa accepting this trade even if its a 2024 first
20 juin 2023 à 11 h 20
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I feel like somebody beats this offer. Especially since Dallas would likely need Faksa in the deal too lol
20 juin 2023 à 11 h 21
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I would make this trade, from a Stars perspective. I'm probably as stingy as anyone on this site when it comes to 1st Round picks, but for a player like DeBrincat, you're either giving up that kind of draft capital or top prospects.

Losing Bourque sucks here, but with Johnston and Stankoven still in the organization, it certainly eases the pain a little bit.

Marchment is there for cap purposes, but is just a year removed from a career year with Florida. It's very realistic that he could bounce back next season.
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20 juin 2023 à 11 h 23
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
I feel like somebody beats this offer. Especially since Dallas would likely need Faksa in the deal too lol


Would the stars do a deal like marchment, faksa and replacing bourque and 1st with stankoven and lets say a 3rd rounder for now , or is stankoven untouchable right now
20 juin 2023 à 11 h 33
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
I feel like somebody beats this offer. Especially since Dallas would likely need Faksa in the deal too lol


Maybe I'm overrating Bourque from his Q days but I like this deal

Sens get a 1st, they need one as they botched the 2021 one and traded the 2022 and 2023 ones.

They get a good prospect who should at least be a good 2-way middle-six forward

Marchment helps now, he's not 2021-22 good of course, but is a good 2-way forward, I would much rather have him than Laughton and Flyers fans are asking for 1st+

So this is a good return. If it can get beat by another team, then ok even better

* Didn't realize it was a 2024 first but hmmm, oh well, maybe add a 3rd then
20 juin 2023 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: zizougaffar
Would the stars do a deal like marchment, faksa and replacing bourque and 1st with stankoven and lets say a 3rd rounder for now , or is stankoven untouchable right now


I wouldn’t call him untouchable, but I don’t care for trading any of Bourque, Stankoven, Kyrou, or Bichsel tbh. Especially not for a forward. Subtract Marchie and Faksa and add Cat and Dallas still doesn’t get by Vegas. Dallas needs defense. If a substantial defensive upgrade isn’t coming in, I think Nill is smart to keep what he’s got personally. Which is what I think he will do. I don’t see Dallas doing much this offseason. I think Nill wait to see what young guys stick and if any of the vets rebound before making moves mid season or at the TDL
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20 juin 2023 à 11 h 41
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Maybe I'm overrating Bourque from his Q days but I like this deal

Sens get a 1st, they need one as they botched the 2021 one and traded the 2022 and 2023 ones.

They get a good prospect who should at least be a good 2-way middle-six forward

Marchment helps now, he's not 2021-22 good of course, but is a good 2-way forward, I would much rather have him than Laughton and Flyers fans are asking for 1st+

So this is a good return. If it can get beat by another team, then ok even better

* Didn't realize it was a 2024 first but hmmm, oh well, maybe add a 3rd then


Bourque is a very solid player. I think a lot of fans consider him movable as we have Wyatt and Stank but I don’t care for moving him unless we’re getting an upgrade on defense. As I said in my other comment, swap Marchie (and Faksa) for Cat and Dallas still doesn’t get past Vegas
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20 juin 2023 à 11 h 57
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Quoting: SlevinKalevra
I wouldn’t call him untouchable, but I don’t care for trading any of Bourque, Stankoven, Kyrou, or Bichsel tbh. Especially not for a forward. Subtract Marchie and Faksa and add Cat and Dallas still doesn’t get by Vegas. Dallas needs defense. If a substantial defensive upgrade isn’t coming in, I think Nill is smart to keep what he’s got personally. Which is what I think he will do. I don’t see Dallas doing much this offseason. I think Nill wait to see what young guys stick and if any of the vets rebound before making moves mid season or at the TDL


Wouldn't freeing the cap space allow the stars to go after Orlov in the open market, and since texas has a no state taxes, they can offer a "lower" number to him than other teams but he would be making more money at dallas. So your defence would be better and your offence as well with debrincat getting in the mix
20 juin 2023 à 13 h 7
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Wouldn't freeing the cap space allow the stars to go after Orlov in the open market, and since texas has a no state taxes, they can offer a "lower" number to him than other teams but he would be making more money at dallas. So your defence would be better and your offence as well with debrincat getting in the mix


This trade doesn’t clear up cap space tho… and adding Orlov without dumping other money will make it hard to sign Harley next offseason. Nils as well if he takes a step forward. Which is why I think Nill is smart to wait
 
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