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Créé par: kingkanuck
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2023
Publié: 18 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
12 250 000 $
2950 000 $
1975 000 $
1800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1975 000 $
3850 000 $
12 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Nielsen, Tristen
3775 000 $
Willander, Tom
3950 000 $
Gajan, Adam
3800 000 $
Levis, Connor
3775 000 $
Transactions
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VAN
CGY
  1. Beauvillier, Anthony
  2. Dries, Sheldon
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
3.
VAN
    Willander pick 11
    Gajan pick 75
    Levis pick 89
    VGK
    1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
    4.
    VAN
    ANA
    1. Martin, Spencer
    2. Myers, Tyler
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
    Détails additionnels:
    after Myers bonus paid
    Rachats de contrats
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    18 juin 2023 à 17 h 5
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    That Washington trade is so bad for Vancouver, and the Calgary one doesn’t really make sense either.
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    18 juin 2023 à 17 h 37
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    Why would we add assets to the Myers deal to gain an AHL goalie?
    18 juin 2023 à 19 h 29
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    Quoting: Aasen6
    That Washington trade is so bad for Vancouver, and the Calgary one doesn’t really make sense either.
    Sure thing champ. Boeser is a declining, one-dimensional, soft, winger with a bloated contract, his value is much lower than you seem to assume. Podkolzin has ~33PTs in a season an a half, he’s a prayer. Rathbone is a replacement level Bottom Pair DMan. Jensen is far more valuable than Boeser and anything in that package from VAN, he’s easily a 3D on practically any NHL team. Iorio alone is worth more than everything in that package from VAN and WSH never considers that horrible trade.
    18 juin 2023 à 19 h 53
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    No thanks from the Flames. I'd rather keep Dube and Vladar. I think Dube takes another step this year, and Vladar can fetch a modest return from another team in terms of futures.
    18 juin 2023 à 20 h 31
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    Quoting: Kuzbackov
    Sure thing champ. Boeser is a declining, one-dimensional, soft, winger with a bloated contract, his value is much lower than you seem to assume. Podkolzin has ~33PTs in a season an a half, he’s a prayer. Rathbone is a replacement level Bottom Pair DMan. Jensen is far more valuable than Boeser and anything in that package from VAN, he’s easily a 3D on practically any NHL team. Iorio alone is worth more than everything in that package from VAN and WSH never considers that horrible trade.


    Rathbone and Iorio are a wash, Boeser easily gets jensen plus more not to mention the retention on him, which leaves podkolzin for a bunch of ahlers which is never gonna happen
    18 juin 2023 à 23 h 26
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    Quoting: Aasen6
    Rathbone and Iorio are a wash, Boeser easily gets jensen plus more not to mention the retention on him, which leaves podkolzin for a bunch of ahlers which is never gonna happen


    Calling Rathbone and Iorio a wash is just embarrassing. Rathbone's a 24 year old former 4th round pick who still can't stick in the NHL, while Iorio, who's 5 inches taller and 4 years younger, is a former 2nd round pick who had a great D+1 year and is currently playing a big role on an AHL team that's a win way from the Calder Cup. They're not even in the same conversation in terms of value.
    19 juin 2023 à 1 h 26
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    Quoting: Kalopsia
    Calling Rathbone and Iorio a wash is just embarrassing. Rathbone's a 24 year old former 4th round pick who still can't stick in the NHL, while Iorio, who's 5 inches taller and 4 years younger, is a former 2nd round pick who had a great D+1 year and is currently playing a big role on an AHL team that's a win way from the Calder Cup. They're not even in the same conversation in terms of value.


    Iorio isn’t close to the nhl level yet. Rathbone absolutely dominated the ahl last year and is a legit nhl caliber d man at this moment. If you just wanna base players off where they were drafted and not how they actually play I guess mark stone sucks cause he was a 6th round pick and pavelski is a bum cause he was a 7th rounder right?
    19 juin 2023 à 9 h 34
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    Quoting: Kalopsia
    Calling Rathbone and Iorio a wash is just embarrassing. Rathbone's a 24 year old former 4th round pick who still can't stick in the NHL, while Iorio, who's 5 inches taller and 4 years younger, is a former 2nd round pick who had a great D+1 year and is currently playing a big role on an AHL team that's a win way from the Calder Cup. They're not even in the same conversation in terms of value.


    Quoting: Aasen6
    Iorio isn’t close to the nhl level yet. Rathbone absolutely dominated the ahl last year and is a legit nhl caliber d man at this moment. If you just wanna base players off where they were drafted and not how they actually play I guess mark stone sucks cause he was a 6th round pick and pavelski is a bum cause he was a 7th rounder right?


    can we just say this trade sucks and doesn't make sense for either team
    19 juin 2023 à 14 h 3
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    Quoting: Aasen6
    Iorio isn’t close to the nhl level yet. Rathbone absolutely dominated the ahl last year and is a legit nhl caliber d man at this moment.


    Iorio's a year away at most and has shown consistent growth each year since being drafted. I don't know how 14 points in 37 games is "dominating" for a 24 year old offensive defenseman in the AHL, and playing 14 minutes a night in 11 NHL games doesn't seem like proof he's a legit NHL defenseman.

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    If you just wanna base players off where they were drafted and not how they actually play I guess mark stone sucks cause he was a 6th round pick and pavelski is a bum cause he was a 7th rounder right?


    Nice strawman. Neither Iorio nor Rathbone has established themselves in the NHL yet, so their draft pedigree is still relevant. Iorio's ceiling is much higher than Rathbone's.
    19 juin 2023 à 14 h 24
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    Quoting: Kalopsia
    Iorio's a year away at most and has shown consistent growth each year since being drafted. I don't know how 14 points in 37 games is "dominating" for a 24 year old offensive defenseman in the AHL, and playing 14 minutes a night in 11 NHL games doesn't seem like proof he's a legit NHL defenseman.

    I said last year meaning 2021-22 the year in which rathbone was over a point per game in the ahl…
    19 juin 2023 à 14 h 41
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    Quoting: Aasen6
    I said last year meaning 2021-22 the year in which rathbone was over a point per game in the ahl…


    When someone says "last year" it typically means the most recent completed season. What's your explanation for the step back he took in 22-23 then? Nothing kills a prospect's value like regression, and he regressed a ton.
    19 juin 2023 à 14 h 52
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    Quoting: Kalopsia
    When someone says "last year" it typically means the most recent completed season. What's your explanation for the step back he took in 22-23 then? Nothing kills a prospect's value like regression, and he regressed a ton.


    I say last year because this pro season in North America isn’t over yet… you say he had a bad year this year but he was still every bit as good as iorio so what’s that tell you…
    19 juin 2023 à 16 h 3
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    Quoting: Aasen6
    I say last year because this pro season in North America isn’t over yet… you say he had a bad year this year but he was still every bit as good as iorio so what’s that tell you…


    A 24 year old looking "every bit as good" as a 20 year old tells me the 20 year old is the significantly more valuable player. I don't know why you keep ignoring the age difference, cause that's a huge factor in this. And I said Rathbone regressed, not that he had a bad year. You've got a bad habit of putting words in other peoples mouths.

    Look, if you don't believe me, make an ACGM where Vancouver trades Rathbone for Iorio and see what the general consensus is. I'm getting tired of talking to a brick wall.
     
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