I mean I don’t hate it.

getting too greedy... 6m of cap space is worth a 1st in itself... 17OA + 6m in cap space is more than enough to move up to 11... Detroit is not sending a 2nd as well after taking Myers albatross contract off your books

okay make it a 3rd then?

Still too much from Detroit in my opinion, but that's a lot more reasonable...

also think about how deep of a pool you'd have with picks 9 and 11

u can't go wrong with it

Why would the Canucks trade down to move Myers and then not use the cap space?

He'll prob fetch something at the deadline as an expiring.

It's def not an albatross considering its expiring this yr. And then also I would fully expect a return for him at the deadline. Maybe a 3rd.

So in essence its 11 + 85 for 17 + 43. You'd be plus on that trade if you pulled a 3rd for Myers. Plus its on of those move up to get a guy you want.

Why would the Canucks rush using the cap space? This isn't Jim Benning going all in anymore, at least I'd hope lol. The Canucks gotta re sign Hronek and Pettersson and this FA market is bad. Maybe next year.

So why would you give up assets to trade Myers if you aren't going to use the cap space though. You can flip at the deadline. He is expiring before those contracts you're worried about.

Because ur moving down 6 spots in the first round and the Canucks can get Willander or Danielsson potentially, and get that second rounder we don't have in a deep draft?
You gotta build ur draft capital at the same time, don't get carried away with cap space because one mistake this summer will cost a lot.

So then the question flips. If you think the trade down for the extra pick is value which it is pretty fair. Why would Detroit take Myers for free?

We could just keep him as a 7th d even if we aren't going to use the cap space.

Flames had to give up a 1st to get rid of Monahan. Similar Cap hit here…

Which team has the Cap space to take on Myers? And rebuilding teams are not options, because they want assets back.

That was a different scenario because they wanted to sign Kadri and they couldn't do it unless they shed a big salary. Everyone knew it. Plus most thought Monahan couldn't really play anymore with his injury history. And while he ended up playing well for a bit they were kinda right as he got injured again.

Anaheim

Very Doubtful CHI would consider using a 2nd for a year of Beauvillier.

And for that reason alone I would be ok with overpaying a little... changing the 2nd to a 3rd at least makes it reasonable, so, sure

6m of cap space in a cap strapped league is DEFINITELY an albatross, especially for a guy that was a healthy scratch at times last season...

Also:

I'm 99% sure that if Myers is traded that Cap space will be used to make the team better. And GM's knows this.

Let's say it was the other way around and Red Wings had Cap troubles and Vancouver would help Detroit: Both teams are targeting the same players in Free agency, but Detroit gets the players, because Vancouver helped Detroit with their Cap situation. How would you feel about that? Anaheim has that in their mind and so do other teams.

True but the difference is they're not over a barrel in the situation. The OEL buyout has freed enough space to work with.

I don't think rebuilding teams are going after big free agents so that analogy doesn't work. You basically can't become a free agent until you are 28. This is too old for a rebuilding team to commit to. Anaheim doesn't want to sign 28 yr old Ryan Graves to a 6 yr deal. They aren't even competing for a couple more yrs at least. Their goal is to weaponize cap space until the point they feel theyre ready, then they can add in free agency the final touches.

To Anaheim Myers is a cheap, minute munching, RD, with experience. Theyd get a pick to take him and they get a pick to sell him at the deadline. Probably two 3rds. And that also improves your team and your room. The actual cost is 1 mil. One of these teams will do it.

I think the big thing is posturing on cap space. If you think a team has none then you try to extract more when in reality taking for instance Garland for free is a good deal for someone who needs a middle 6 winger. But no one took the offer before the OEL deal because they want to squeeze more. Its a game of chicken.

It won't be to a cap ceiling team. And when you consider actual salary and position, experience. He will have some value to a team.

I don't think he was ever healthy scratched. I don't remember that anyway.

An albatross is a multi yr deal generally. OELs deal was an albatross. The Canucks could just keep Myers and deal him 50% retained at the deadline for a 3rd. That is not an albatross.

This past March he was. He looked REALLY bad last year and 6m is exactly what an albatross is, term would make it suffocating.

I don't think he was actually. It was misreported and then they found out he was sick. Either way though.

Albatross is literally a continuing problem. This problem is ending in one season. Not to mention 1/4 of teams are prob more than 6m under the cap. The one mil actual salary is another bonus to those teams too. It's basically the easiest possible cap dump from 6m.

It is a cap dump and it will cost something but the parameters all favour it not being a large price. It won't be a 1st. We don't have a 2nd and that's too much in my mind anyway. 3rd seems reasonable to a team like Anaheim.

I think you misunderstood my point, I'm not suggesting moving him should cost a 1st alone, just moving down. If moving down in the 1st isn't a fit, I could see Detroit also taking him for just a 3rd as compensation, with nothing going back. It *was* reported though, that trading down with Detroit was on the table from Vancouver though, so I was just replying to that premise.

Oh ok well fair enough but you have to realize that trading up 6 spots from 17 to 11 has far more value than a 3rd. The value according to charts would be more like a mid 2nd to do that.