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Post Expansion Minny Trade

Créé par: Shootica
Équipe: 2017-18 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 22 juin 2017
Publié: 22 juin 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
24 000 000 $
21 250 000 $
12 500 000 $
1650 000 $
1650 000 $
2900 000 $
22 250 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1650 000 $
12 000 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
BUF
  1. Brodin, Jonas
  2. Pominville, Jason (1 000 000 $ retained)
MIN
  1. Bailey, Justin
  2. Kane, Evander (2 625 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (BUF)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2017
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2018
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2019
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $64 264 524 $0 $6 350 000 $10 735 476 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
C
UFA - 6
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 6
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
894 166 $894 166 $
AD, AG
RFA - 4
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AD
UFA - 1
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 166 667 $4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 4
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
5 142 857 $5 142 857 $
DD
UFA - 3
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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22 juin 2017 à 13 h 56
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Wild accept without thinking twice
22 juin 2017 à 14 h 1
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Modifié 22 juin 2017 à 15 h 22
Quoting: Wildfan5611
Wild accept without thinking twice


I may have overpaid for Brodin a little but I want him a lot and I don't think this is too far off in value. Obviously Nylander might not make the team right out of camp, in that case I'd move Moulson into his spot.

Additionally, this makes next year's cap situation very interesting, but I think I made it fit.... http://i.imgur.com/nzrGsOg.png. And if the cap goes up, we have a bit of a cushion.

Edit: I think Beaulieu would still be a RFA if he signed a one year contract so my chart is a little off, but I'd let him walk or trade him at the deadline with Guhle coming up.
22 juin 2017 à 14 h 8
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I would definitely think twice. I'm not a fan of this deal.
22 juin 2017 à 21 h 3
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I would definitely think twice. I'm not a fan of this deal.


Just wondering, what part don't you like? I'll explain my reasoning from Minnesota's angle.

First things first, this clears around 5.25 million in cape space, enough to easily re-sign Granlund and Nino, as well as all the lower cost RFAs you've got due. I haven't looked to closely at the Wild's numbers, but it might even give you enough space to replace Haula.

Kane is a 25-30 goal scorer when healthy, and can completely take over games when he's playing well. He forechecks hard, hits, fights, and just gives it his all for every second he's on the ice. He's got that edge to his game that in my opinion Minnesota is lacking and would be very useful come playoff time. Downside is he's a rental and likely will walk after this season.

8th overall is self explanatory, and should land you a genuine blue chip prospect tomorrow. Bailey is a solid RW prospect that is just about ready to break into the league. For reference, he's the same age as Alex Tuch and put up slightly better AHL numbers than him last year. He'll replace Tuch in the pipeline.

It might not change your opinion, but that was my thought process when coming up with this proposal.
22 juin 2017 à 23 h 37
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Just wondering, what part don't you like? I'll explain my reasoning from Minnesota's angle.

First things first, this clears around 5.25 million in cape space, enough to easily re-sign Granlund and Nino, as well as all the lower cost RFAs you've got due. I haven't looked to closely at the Wild's numbers, but it might even give you enough space to replace Haula.

Kane is a 25-30 goal scorer when healthy, and can completely take over games when he's playing well. He forechecks hard, hits, fights, and just gives it his all for every second he's on the ice. He's got that edge to his game that in my opinion Minnesota is lacking and would be very useful come playoff time. Downside is he's a rental and likely will walk after this season.

8th overall is self explanatory, and should land you a genuine blue chip prospect tomorrow. Bailey is a solid RW prospect that is just about ready to break into the league. For reference, he's the same age as Alex Tuch and put up slightly better AHL numbers than him last year. He'll replace Tuch in the pipeline.

It might not change your opinion, but that was my thought process when coming up with this proposal.


I see where you are coming from. I just don't think the deal really fits very well with our roster and we would probably lose the trade in the end.

Kane doesn't fit into our roster. We already have 4 top9 LWs on the roster so adding another is problematic. He is also is injury prone averaging about 65 games/year over his career. I know Buffalo fans say otherwise, but there will always be a stigma following him about character issues. Also, like you said, he's basically a rental.

Bailey has some talent but doesn't wow me. He seems pretty comparable to Tuch at this point based on AHL numbers. His advanced stats aren't good. Based on a little research, it seems people think he needs a bigger role to be more productive. That's not something we can do at this point. Unless we have a bigger trade go down, the top 6 is fairly locked down for the next few years. Being a year older than Tuch hurts him a bit. I think Tuch was probably the number 5 offensive prospect in our system. Replacing him with a similar player would be nice but it wouldn't kill us if we didn't. Seeing as Kane is most likely gone in a year, Bailey becomes the centerpiece. I don't think I would do

The 8th overall is somewhat intriguing. I'm honestly so checked out of this draft that I'm not even sure what would be available in that range.

If we're dealing Brodin, I want it to be for a young, gamebreaking NHL forward. He is an integral part of our defense and we've repeatedly struggled without him in the lineup. I wouldn't try to package him with Pominville to dump cap. I would prefer to move Scandella or Dumba before even thinking about trading Brodin. He most likely gives us more value playing for us than what we'd get in a trade IMO.

Like I said, I can see what you're saying but I think it just causes more headaches more than it helps us.
23 juin 2017 à 0 h 41
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I see where you are coming from. I just don't think the deal really fits very well with our roster and we would probably lose the trade in the end.

Kane doesn't fit into our roster. We already have 4 top9 LWs on the roster so adding another is problematic. He is also is injury prone averaging about 65 games/year over his career. I know Buffalo fans say otherwise, but there will always be a stigma following him about character issues. Also, like you said, he's basically a rental.

Bailey has some talent but doesn't wow me. He seems pretty comparable to Tuch at this point based on AHL numbers. His advanced stats aren't good. Based on a little research, it seems people think he needs a bigger role to be more productive. That's not something we can do at this point. Unless we have a bigger trade go down, the top 6 is fairly locked down for the next few years. Being a year older than Tuch hurts him a bit. I think Tuch was probably the number 5 offensive prospect in our system. Replacing him with a similar player would be nice but it wouldn't kill us if we didn't. Seeing as Kane is most likely gone in a year, Bailey becomes the centerpiece. I don't think I would do

The 8th overall is somewhat intriguing. I'm honestly so checked out of this draft that I'm not even sure what would be available in that range.

If we're dealing Brodin, I want it to be for a young, gamebreaking NHL forward. He is an integral part of our defense and we've repeatedly struggled without him in the lineup. I wouldn't try to package him with Pominville to dump cap. I would prefer to move Scandella or Dumba before even thinking about trading Brodin. He most likely gives us more value playing for us than what we'd get in a trade IMO.

Like I said, I can see what you're saying but I think it just causes more headaches more than it helps us.


I hear ya. Thanks for the input!
23 juin 2017 à 1 h 3
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It's probably in Minny's favor value wise. But the fit isn't right for Minny with the players involved.
 
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