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Créé par: Pensfan303

Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2023

Publié: 15 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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-- Reports are Jarry wants a long term deal and tbh, i'm not comfortable giving him anything more than a 2 year contract due to his recent injury history which is most likely going to lead him straight to free agency and the pens will be searching for a new starting goaltender.

-- Zucker also walks for the same reasons as he wants too much term and money for what has been an up and down tenure in Pittsburgh. Pens look to get younger, so they move on from Zucker.

-- -- Ryan Graves to me is the perfect defensemen to pair with Letang as he is a big body DFD which allows Letang to go out and be himself offensively. Graves also helps clear the front of the net which was still an issue last season and improves out PK.

-- David Kampf is a good bottom 6 center who is better suited for the 4th, but can play 3rd line minutes if needed and wouldn't totally be out of place. He's very good defensively, good in the circle, can play the PK and chip in offensively.

-- -- Bunting is a good TWF which is much needed on Geno's wings and is the most Jason Zucker type replacement in FA. Having Dubas as POHO, I truly believe if we are to get one of the top UFA fowards, it will be Bunting.

-- Matthew Phillips is a low-risk high reward type signing as he finally looks to make the NHL full time as he never got that chance with the Flames. Phillips dominated the AHL (76 pts in 66 games) and is a speedy forward that's not scared to get to the front of the net. His only downside, he's 5'8, 165 which could very well not translate to the NHL. I think he would be better suited in a top 6 role as he gets to play in a more offensive role which can be provided in Pittsburgh. He can play center and wing but with his size, he is better suited on the wing. We have also seen this type of forward succeed in Sullivan's system (Sheary).

-- Nylander, Puustinen and Phillips fight it out in preseason for the final 2 top 9 spots, the one who ends up the odd man out gets sent to WBS

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gruden, Jonathan	2	800 000 $
O'Connor, Drew	2	950 000 $
Poehling, Ryan	2	950 000 $
Puustinen, Valtteri	2	900 000 $
Smith, Ty	2	900 000 $
Colton, Ross	4	3 750 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Graves, Ryan	6	5 750 000 $
Kämpf, David	3	2 000 000 $
Bunting, Michael	7	5 000 000 $
Twarynski, Carsen	1	800 000 $
Phillips, Matthew	2	950 000 $
Caggiula, Drake	1	775 000 $
Zohorna, Radim	1	825 000 $
Shea, Ryan	2	850 000 $
Kinkaid, Keith	1	775 000 $
Tierney, Chris	1	775 000 $
Leivo, Josh	1	775 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)

COL

Granlund, Mikael (1 250 000 $ retained)
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Saw this trade a few times on Colorado ACGM's and I would do it 100% so I decided to steal the idea haha.

Needless to say, Granlund did not work out at all in Pittsburgh and it's looking like they might move on from him.

Pens retain 1.25 (25%) which is basically his buyout price in order to deal him.

PIT

Vejmelka, Karel

Détails additionnels:

Offseason move

My Ideal goaltending target as he has been very solid on a bad Arizona team even though the numbers aren't great on paper. Vejmelka has stolen many games for ARZ while being in front of a bad team and he is under a very good contract for the next 2 seasons that would give the pens much needed cap flexibility.

ARI

Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Offseason move

With all the goaltending options via the trade market, it's hard to gauge Vejmelka's value so here is my best guess at it.

Conditional 2024 2nd round pick, Becomes a 2024 1st round pick if the penguins make the playoffs

PIT

Colton, Ross [Droits de RFA]
Myers, Philippe

Détails additionnels:

With Tampa being up against the cap, it's going to be hard to retain Colton although it is possible however, if he is on the market, he would be my ideal 3C target for the pens.

Myers is added to the deal to give Tampa a little wiggle room although it isn't much, but they could use all the money they can free up.

TBL

Détails additionnels:

POJ or Ty Smith. Either or gives Tampa a solid cheap left shot OFD with solid upside for their bottom dpair. For me, pens need to move on from one of them for a more proven two way/DFD. Here, I am assuming POJ has slightly higher value based off of last season.

DOC to me feels like a perfect fit for what Tampa looks for in a bottom 6 forward and although I do like DOC a lot, I would be more than willing to give him up if it meant Colton was coming back the other way.

PIT

Place Holder

CAR

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)

Détails additionnels:

Ideally we move down from 14 and recoup picks and maybe a prospect in doing so, Unless Oliver Moore is available at 14, I would trade down and get what I can.

Rachats de contrats

Jack Johnson: 916 667 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Mikael Granlund: 1 250 000 $ (25%)

Enfoui

Philippe Myers: 250 000 $ (1 400 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	83 500 000 $	78 035 592 $	0 $	0 $	5 464 408 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 2	Phillips, Matthew 950 000 $950 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Bunting, Michael 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG UFA - 3	Malkin, Evgeni 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 5
Puustinen, Valtteri 900 000 $900 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Colton, Ross 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ C, AG UFA - 4	Rust, Bryan 5 125 000 $5 125 000 $ AD, AG NMC UFA - 5
Poehling, Ryan 950 000 $950 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Kämpf, David 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 4	Carter, Jeff 3 125 000 $3 125 000 $ AD, C NMC UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Graves, Ryan 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Letang, Kris 6 100 000 $6 100 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 5	Vejmelka, Karel 2 725 000 $2 725 000 $ G UFA - 2
Pettersson, Marcus 4 025 175 $4 025 175 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Petry, Jeff 2 343 750 $2 343 750 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	DeSmith, Casey 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ G UFA - 1
Smith, Ty 900 000 $900 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Rutta, Jan 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Leivo, Josh 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG UFA
Tierney, Chris 775 000 $775 000 $ C UFA - 1
Ruhwedel, Chad 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Nylander, Alexander 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Rakell, R.		Crosby, S.		Guentzel, J.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Rust, B.		Colton, R.		Bunting, M.
	Petry, J.		Puustinen, V.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Kämpf, D.	Rust, B.
	Graves, R.	Letang, K.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Carter, J.	Poehling, R.
	Pettersson, M.	Rutta, J.

15 juin 2023 à 16 h 59

Falcon_talon

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Canes Accept big time and that placeholder can be a first a 2nd, Drury, Lajoie, and Coughlan (All are mid prospects but can be good depth pieces) Drury can be 3C or 4C like Jordan Staal is. Lajoie and Coughlan can be 2nd or 3rd pairing defencemen and if you want add another 2nd from next year I'll be fine with it

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 5

Pensfan303

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Quoting: Falcon_talon

Would you consider something like #30, #71, Flyers 2024 2nd, Vasili Ponomarev and Aleksi Heimosalmi for #14 and #90 ? Im personally not really high in Coughlan and Lajoie

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 9

Dan10900

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I wouldn't bank on signing 5 notable FAs, I see that a ton on here, but it seems like a ton. Also, I love Vej, but if we're going with him, I wouldn't want him to be the number 1, I'd try to get a Freddy or Raanta to be a 1B instead of Desmith. I'm also just not sold on Graves, he's fine, but meh. Also agreed, that unless Moore (or Michkov) is available at 14, there's no way I'm making that pick, whether it's trading down, or moving it for a top 6 F

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 12

evelutions2

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You aren’t getting Vejmelka for 2 2nds

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 13

Falcon_talon

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Would you consider something like #30, #71, Flyers 2024 2nd, Vasili Ponomarev and Aleksi Heimosalmi for #14 and #90 ? Im personally not really high in Coughlan and Lajoie

Big time Pono and Heimosalmi should be on the block bc if they aren't its bc Waddell can be the most useless GM in the universe (can we trade for Dubas lmfao)

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 15

evelutions2

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Would you consider something like #30, #71, Flyers 2024 2nd, Vasili Ponomarev and Aleksi Heimosalmi for #14 and #90 ? Im personally not really high in Coughlan and Lajoie

So you want the Canes to overpay just to get 14? How about 30, 71, Ponomarev and Drury for 14 and either POJ/Smith? Ponomarev and Drury could be valued as mid to late 2nds

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 27

Pensfan303

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Quoting: evelutions2

So you want the Canes to overpay just to get 14? How about 30, 71, Ponomarev and Drury for 14 and either POJ/Smith? Ponomarev and Drury could be valued as mid to late 2nds

Considering they are a div rival I would like them to overpay haha, But I do agree I was being a bit greedy with that counter haha.

What About #30, #71, Ponomarev and Heimosalmi for #14? It checks on on the pick value chart im refering too right now if you value Heimosalmi at his draft position.

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 29

Pensfan303

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Quoting: Dan10900

5 notable FA? only big names are Bunting and Graves unless you want to include Kampf in that list. I think Graves would pair very well with Letang but that's just me.
and honestly, it really all depends with how Sully and Dubas see Desmith. Was also trying to limit the roster turnover as I thought it was getting to be a bit much haha

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 30

Pensfan303

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Quoting: evelutions2

You aren’t getting Vejmelka for 2 2nds

One of them is Conditional and could become a 1st incase you missed it

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 40

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Dan10900

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Bunting, I counted Colton bc I'm dumb, Graves, I would argue Kampf bc you're paying him 2 mil, and Phillips if you're gonna play him on the top line those seem like specific targets. But mostly just banking on signing Bunting, I see him being signed to like 85% of teams on here lol. (Not a big deal, I just wouldn't bank on him in particular until I see it)

Graves is fine defensively, he's better than Dumo (very low bar) but nothing special, but I would rather play MP with Letang, and get a 2nd pair DFD to play Petry or POJ

That's true, but I also feel like Dubas is not gonna be afraid to shake up the roster big time to try to win now

15 juin 2023 à 17 h 44

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Tampa Bay probably accepts

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15 juin 2023 à 17 h 51

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Pensfan303

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Quoting: Dan10900

Phillips is really a let's see what he can do signing. I simply placed on the 1st line because hes better suited for a top 6 role imo and well why not add some speed to Sid's line.
Butting in my books seems like someone Kyle Dubas is most likely going to target hard in FA unless we re-sign Zucker which would lead to Dubas focusing more on bottom 6 options.
Instead of Graves, who would you like to see?

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15 juin 2023 à 19 h 32

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evelutions2

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Personally, I would rather not move Heimosalmi just to upgrade a pick. Are there any other prospects not named Morrow, Nikishin, or Trikozov that might be of interest instead of Heimosalmi.

15 juin 2023 à 19 h 32

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If Tampa does somehow keep Killorn and trades Colton, this trade is one they'd likely accept.

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15 juin 2023 à 19 h 57

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Pensfan303

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Quoting: evelutions2

Personally, I would rather not move Heimosalmi just to upgrade a pick. Are there any other prospects not named Morrow, Nikishin, or Trikozov that might be of interest instead of Heimosalmi.

Suzuki, Rees and Gunler although for Suzuki and rees there is a bit of concern on my part as to why they haven't seen the NHL yet

15 juin 2023 à 23 h 51

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Quoting: Pensfan303

Suzuki, Rees and Gunler although for Suzuki and rees there is a bit of concern on my part as to why they haven't seen the NHL yet

Simply put, Canes have too much C depth, and Drury, Rees, Suzuki, Ponomarev, and now Pashin and Robidas all have to fight over what is essentially 1 roster spot.

16 juin 2023 à 1 h 7

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Pensfan303

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Quoting: evelutions2

Simply put, Canes have too much C depth, and Drury, Rees, Suzuki, Ponomarev, and now Pashin and Robidas all have to fight over what is essentially 1 roster spot.

Well id Gladly take one of Rees or Suzukie along with Ponomarev of your hands in a package for #14

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offseason 5

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ARI

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CAR

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