More reports on habs wanting to move this time 2nd overall

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Créé par: JeffGorton

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2023

Publié: 14 juin 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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https://theathletic.com/4610276/2023/06/14/canadiens-offseason-nhl-draft-monahan/?source=user_shared_article

Any trade for 2 would have to be ridiculous unless the Ducks actually want Michkov and think they can get him at 5 (this trade value is gonna reflect a bit of this as that is the only way i can see the Ducks trading that pick)

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Comtois, Maxime [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (ANA)

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Anderson, Josh
Harris, Jordan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (MTL)

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Harris or Xhekaj, whichever the ducks find better

Anderson can be left out but it looks like they could use a winger. Only real value replacement would be Mesar or Kidney

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Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

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Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake 1 925 000 $1 925 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Edmundson, Joel 875 000 $875 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Barron, Justin 925 000 $925 000 $ (275 000 $$275K) DD RFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

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	Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
	Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

14 juin 2023 à 14 h 58

hudsonsux

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EASY no for ducks that’s an awful trade

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 2

JeffGorton

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Quoting: hudsonsux

EASY no for ducks that’s an awful trade

Is it because the value is off or because you hate any trade a Habs fan makes

Seems to be the latter

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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 4

IconicHawk

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No pick in the top 3 is getting moved

The athletic isn’t a good source

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 6

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Is it because the value is off or because you hate any trade a Habs fan makes

Seems to be the latter

I'm a Habs fan and I would refuse that trade if I was a Ducks fan lol

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 9

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Probably youth over anderson, I’m sure that’s the going rate for such a move, not sure a rookie gm ready for that gamble of letting a franchise Center out the door and open up uncertainty of who is going to be there at 5. That’s a lot of draft capital though.

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14 juin 2023 à 15 h 15

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Quoting: What_Are_you_Drouin

I'm a Habs fan and I would refuse that trade if I was a Ducks fan lol

But would the gm refuse it if they are set on drafting Michkov and know he'll be there at 5

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 18

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2nd overall starts with Suzuki and both 1st rounders, even then I’m not doing that as Anaheim

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 18

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Similar to the other Habs thread moving up, there's just no logical reason for the Ducks to trade down. I've said it before-Michkov looks like he can be great, but there's wayyyy too much uncertainty to take him at 2OA, especially when the gap between he and Fantilli is presumably so small.

Again-Love the idea of adding some more draft capital, but the Ducks are at a point where taking the sure-est thing makes 1000 times more sense than trading back. A team who trades someone who has the potential to be a franchise center, only to get back a bunch of lotto tickets is just asking for trouble.

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 22

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Quoting: JeffGorton

But would the gm refuse it if they are set on drafting Michkov and know he'll be there at 5

I guess I don't see why they'd be set on Michkov? Absolutely believe he can be a star some day, but there's no way he slides. The Athletic (as usual) is hunting for clicks now that we're starting the offseason, and they know the markets that they can get them from right now. I'm assuming we'll see a few hundred thehockeywriters.com "Breaking!!!! Inside info has The Habs (or Leafs?) closing in on a deal for THIS surprising superstar...click to find out more!" blog posts between now the draft.

14 juin 2023 à 15 h 23

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Quoting: JeffGorton

But would the gm refuse it if they are set on drafting Michkov and know he'll be there at 5

Kind of interesting, Anaheim drafts fantilli with this offer on the table and michkov is there at 5, I wonder if it takes a trade up from 31 to the teens somewhere to get it done.

14 juin 2023 à 19 h 36

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hudsonsux

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Quoting: JeffGorton

Is it because the value is off or because you hate any trade a Habs fan makes

Seems to be the latter

That value is awful.
Comtois > Harris
Anderson is on a terrible contract and is incredibly overrated
1.02 > 1.05 and 1.31
2nd and 3rd don’t account for those two downgrades

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