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Need one of those players in return for Cat

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 13 juin 2023
Publié: 13 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Picks and futures only don’t make sense. Need one player to plug into the lineup that will be here longterm
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    13 juin 2023 à 16 h 56
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    Berggren is most likely for the Wings as much as I hate to say it. Most NHL ready of the 3 and also most likely to be a 2nd line level player imo
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 0
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    Avs cannot afford Debrincat, they're not in this fight.
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 1
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    Soderblom and Mazur aren't on the table, Berggren probably only gets moved in a package deal for either Kyle Connor or Clayton Keller.
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 2
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    Soderblom and Mazur aren't on the table, Berggren probably only gets moved in a package deal for either Kyle Connor or Clayton Keller.


    So he won’t be a red wing
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 3
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    Quoting: MoSeider53
    Soderblom and Mazur aren't on the table, Berggren probably only gets moved in a package deal for either Kyle Connor or Clayton Keller.


    you aren't getting cat without moving a premium asset or two, and i hate to break it to you, that will have to be one of those three involved.
    just because he "wants to play in detroit" doesnt drive his value to the ground lmao. detroit fans are delusional
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 3
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    You may be getting greedy. Why do teams trade for him when he has 9m QO? Gonna be interesting if he isn't traded or resigned by July 1st and DeBrincat makes 9m on his QO. How does Ottawa afford that. Ottawa really has very little leverage in trade talks. Few buyers.
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 6
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    Quoting: csick
    So he won’t be a red wing


    We don't need him, There's going to be quite a few in this draft that will be better than Debrincat. only reason Debrincat put up 2 40 goal seasons was because he was the benefactor of Patrick Kane. No guarantees he duplicates that elsewhere.
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 7
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    Quoting: palhal
    You may be getting greedy. Why do teams trade for him when he has 9m QO? Gonna be interesting if he isn't traded or resigned by July 1st and DeBrincat makes 9m on his QO. How does Ottawa afford that. Ottawa really has very little leverage in trade talks. Few buyers.


    Not greedy. Why should we want pieces that suck and won’t be here for more than 2 years
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 8
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    Quoting: PhilsWeiner
    you aren't getting cat without moving a premium asset or two, and i hate to break it to you, that will have to be one of those three involved.
    just because he "wants to play in detroit" doesnt drive his value to the ground lmao. detroit fans are delusional


    Literally I’m not even asking for Kasper level prospects. I went a step below and they still wanna say no lol
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 11
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    Literally I’m not even asking for Kasper level prospects. I went a step below and they still wanna say no lol


    Well isn't that issue.? Why should teams give up a whole lot for a guys who is gonna get UFA money.....just sign a UFA. Sorry, Sens fans somehow think DeBrincat's trade value has some relations on the high price the Sens paid to acquire him. No, its;sJune 2023 now, and he is unsigned, and has big QO possibility.
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 16
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    Quoting: palhal
    Well isn't that issue.? Why should teams give up a whole lot for a guys who is gonna get UFA money.....just sign a UFA. Sorry, Sens fans somehow think DeBrincat's trade value has some relations on the high price the Sens paid to acquire him. No, its;sJune 2023 now, and he is unsigned, and has big QO possibility.


    He’s gonna go for Evangelista and Edmonton 1st which is what Minny got for Fiala (Faber and a 1st). And Minny had even less leverage because they had 0 cap space
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 17
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    Count the Avs out of it.
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 18
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    Quoting: palhal
    Well isn't that issue.? Why should teams give up a whole lot for a guys who is gonna get UFA money.....just sign a UFA. Sorry, Sens fans somehow think DeBrincat's trade value has some relations on the high price the Sens paid to acquire him. No, its;sJune 2023 now, and he is unsigned, and has big QO possibility.


    You do Realize its gonna be a Sign and Trade Debrincat on an 8 year deal you cant get that in UFA the Sens Aren't gonna Trade him for nothing, its either Pay up or Dont have the opportunity to get him cause he wont hit the Market next Offseason
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 20
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    Quoting: Leblock_james98
    You do Realize its gonna be a Sign and Trade Debrincat on an 8 year deal you cant get that in UFA the Sens Aren't gonna Trade him for nothing, its either Pay up or Dont have the opportunity to get him cause he wont hit the Market next Offseason


    How many players like cat ever make it to free agency at age 26? Very rare and every team will be after them in free agency and they’ll end up even more overpaid.

    If teams want them u have to trade for them
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 24
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    Quoting: Leblock_james98
    You do Realize its gonna be a Sign and Trade Debrincat on an 8 year deal you cant get that in UFA the Sens Aren't gonna Trade him for nothing, its either Pay up or Dont have the opportunity to get him cause he wont hit the Market next Offseason


    I do realize that the best opportunity for the Sens is sign and trade.....but that doesn't other teams will make the trade or DeBrincat even signs a contract for that team. Sens just don't too many options.
    Why won't he hit the open market next season? DeBrincat is under no obligation to sign a long term contract with any team. He can just take his QO for 23/24, which I believe is 9m.
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 25
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    Quoting: csick
    How many players like cat ever make it to free agency at age 26? Very rare and every team will be after them in free agency and they’ll end up even more overpaid.

    If teams want them u have to trade for them


    I can think of a few undersized 60 point wingers that make it to UFA actually.
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 25
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    Quoting: palhal
    Well isn't that issue.? Why should teams give up a whole lot for a guys who is gonna get UFA money.....just sign a UFA. Sorry, Sens fans somehow think DeBrincat's trade value has some relations on the high price the Sens paid to acquire him. No, its;sJune 2023 now, and he is unsigned, and has big QO possibility.


    ADB instantly become your #1/2 producer. You aren’t going to find that on the UFA market. Delusional to think you’re going to get that in a trade without giving up any decent prospects or draft picks
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 32
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    I can think of a few undersized 60 point wingers that make it to UFA actually.


    It was a downyear he won’t get under 70pts again
    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 32
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    Quoting: palhal
    I do realize that the best opportunity for the Sens is sign and trade.....but that doesn't other teams will make the trade or DeBrincat even signs a contract for that team. Sens just don't too many options.
    Why won't he hit the open market next season? DeBrincat is under no obligation to sign a long term contract with any team. He can just take his QO for 23/24, which I believe is 9m.


    The Sens Are gonna Trade him with an Extension 100%

    The Sens have tons of Options
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 34
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    The Sens Are gonna Trade him with an Extension 100%

    The Sens have tons of Options


    A lot of teams are very interested in cat
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 35
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    Quoting: Brayden_Ktachuk
    ADB instantly become your #1/2 producer. You aren’t going to find that on the UFA market. Delusional to think you’re going to get that in a trade without giving up any decent prospects or draft picks


    He was the # 4 producer for the Sens
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    He was the # 4 producer for the Sens


    And the Sens have a very strong top 6
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 36
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    I think you are selling him short (pun intended). As an RFA, you’re unlikely to command what you paid for him….but should expect a Fiala-esque return. There wasn’t a name listed that should be out of reach. If you are thinking pick/prospect combination…I am guessing it would be in this sort of range:

    DET: 17th + Wallinder or Berggren
    PIT: 14th + Smith or Puustinen
    NSH: 24th + Livingstone or Evangelista

    Or it’s just one player coming back, a guy like Jarvis, Lafreniere, Peterka…should be gettable.
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 40
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    Quoting: csick
    He’s gonna go for Evangelista and Edmonton 1st which is what Minny got for Fiala (Faber and a 1st). And Minny had even less leverage because they had 0 cap space


    *Tomasino
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    13 juin 2023 à 17 h 40
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    I think you are selling him short (pun intended). As an RFA, you’re unlikely to command what you paid for him….but should expect a Fiala-esque return. There wasn’t a name listed that should be out of reach. If you are thinking pick/prospect combination…I am guessing it would be in this sort of range:

    DET: 17th + Wallinder or Berggren
    PIT: 14th + Smith or Puustinen
    NSH: 24th + Livingstone or Evangelista

    Or it’s just one player coming back, a guy like Jarvis, Lafreniere, Peterka…should be gettable.


    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    I think you are selling him short (pun intended). As an RFA, you’re unlikely to command what you paid for him….but should expect a Fiala-esque return. There wasn’t a name listed that should be out of reach. If you are thinking pick/prospect combination…I am guessing it would be in this sort of range:

    DET: 17th + Wallinder or Berggren
    PIT: 14th + Smith or Puustinen
    NSH: 24th + Livingstone or Evangelista

    Or it’s just one player coming back, a guy like Jarvis, Lafreniere, Peterka…should be gettable.


    No to Livingstone
     
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