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Créé par: AyyPavy
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2023
Publié: 12 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 750 000 $
44 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
PHI
  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Voit, Ty
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
1st + Robertson for Laughton. 1st + Niemela + Minten + Voit for Konecny.
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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835 000 $835 000 $
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 14
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Leafs decline
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 15
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Leafs decline

Tried to make Philly inticed due to all the rejecting so we will see there response
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 16
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Tried to make Philly inticed due to all the rejecting so we will see there response


Yeah I mean the Leafs are emptying their cupboards completely with this, literally no prospects left, they’d better be ecstatic with this haul lmao
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 18
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Yeah I mean the Leafs are emptying their cupboards completely with this, literally no prospects left, they’d better be ecstatic with this haul lmao

Maybe philly throws in Morgan Frost 🤷‍♂️
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 20
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Maybe philly throws in Morgan Frost 🤷‍♂️


Not a chance lol this is barely enough as is. Most of these prospects are average at best.
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 22
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Big overpayment for an unnecessary move by the Leafs. Minten is the Leafs only centre prospect, Niemela really their only Dman prospect.
Really just added 8.5m with those two Flyers. Surely the Leafs could spend 8.5m in UFAs, and not lose any of those five assets. But of course the silliness starts thinking the Leafs can just bury Murray and Brodie and LTIR.
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 23
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Happily accept that from a PHI side
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 26
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Happily accept that from a PHI side

Interesting… another flyers fan in here declines.
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 26
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Quoting: palhal
Big overpayment for an unnecessary move by the Leafs. Minten is the Leafs only centre prospect, Niemela really their only Dman prospect.
Really just added 8.5m with those two Flyers. Surely the Leafs could spend 8.5m in UFAs, and not lose any of those five assets. But of course the silliness starts thinking the Leafs can just bury Murray and Brodie and LTIR.

The Murray and Brodie on IR was just to show they won’t be on the cap do whatever with them. And i hate to tell you think but Philly fans are still declining this lol…
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 27
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Not a chance lol this is barely enough as is. Most of these prospects are average at best.

Barely enough as is? I think ur alone on this one man. Not even philly fans agree. You might be overvaluing them.
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 30
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Interesting… another flyers fan in here declines.


He/she declines when you threw in Frost. The thing I see is that the flyers are going to run into a problem with too many B+ prospects eventually. Trading with them sooner is better because the value of your B prospects are higher, until we can’t use them anymore. If you’re asking for Frost back, that’s fine. But this trade doesn’t have any blue chips. The 3 best assets in the trade would be what the flyers are giving up (unless you think Voit is the real deal). The prospects and picks you have don’t grade out much better than what every other organization has. You’re just adding quantity to try to prove a point.
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 31
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Quoting: AyyPavy
Barely enough as is? I think ur alone on this one man. Not even philly fans agree. You might be overvaluing them.


1 flyers fan agrees lol 1. I’d also happily take it but that’s because it’s all you have left to offer. Robertson is always injured, Minten has average stats, Niemela is too early to tell, Voit has worse stats than Frost did lol. Sorry but this is the definition of mid at best. Stats don’t lie.
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 33
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He/she declines when you threw in Frost. The thing I see is that the flyers are going to run into a problem with too many B+ prospects eventually. Trading with them sooner is better because the value of your B prospects are higher, until we can’t use them anymore. If you’re asking for Frost back, that’s fine. But this trade doesn’t have any blue chips. The 3 best assets in the trade would be what the flyers are giving up (unless you think Voit is the real deal). The prospects and picks you have don’t grade out much better than what every other organization has. You’re just adding quantity to try to prove a point.


Exactly! Trade is fine as is but adding in frost is a total joke. This is quantity with no quality we already have 10 prospects that could play in the bottom or middle 6 adding 3 more doesn’t help anything
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 33
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The Murray and Brodie on IR was just to show they won’t be on the cap do whatever with them. And i hate to tell you think but Philly fans are still declining this lol…


Sorry, that is quite silly logic. "Do whatever you want with them" They both have M NTC and finding team to on their trade list who wants to take on their cap is probably impossible. Hence the title of this site.....

I hate to tell you that the Flyers would love the trade. Five young assets, plus 8.5m in cap. That gets you a lot of good UFAs. Laughton is fair value at 3m, but finding those players isn't difficult. Konecky finally had a good season, but traditionally he's a 50 to 55 point guy.
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 33
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Not a chance lol this is barely enough as is. Most of these prospects are average at best.


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Barely enough as is? I think ur alone on this one man. Not even philly fans agree. You might be overvaluing them.


I actually don’t disagree. I agree it’s barely enough, but as it currently stands, we could use all those prospects. If we start selling off and getting decent prospects, the ones you think are valuable, are going to be about the same value as the ones we could get from other teams. Keep your Mintens, Voits, and robertsons if they have value to you. As soon as you trade them to an organization with better depth, they aren’t as valuable
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 34
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Quoting: radtad
He/she declines when you threw in Frost. The thing I see is that the flyers are going to run into a problem with too many B+ prospects eventually. Trading with them sooner is better because the value of your B prospects are higher, until we can’t use them anymore. If you’re asking for Frost back, that’s fine. But this trade doesn’t have any blue chips. The 3 best assets in the trade would be what the flyers are giving up (unless you think Voit is the real deal). The prospects and picks you have don’t grade out much better than what every other organization has. You’re just adding quantity to try to prove a point.

I do agree on the quantity over quality. When you see something like this fans often would rather have a mid first + goof player + top prospect instead. But i think in this case it’s too unrealistic of quantity that it would never happen. If a Konecny trade to the leafs happens it will likely cost Knies. Which leafs would just walk away from and sign someone in FA.
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 35
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I do agree on the quantity over quality. When you see something like this fans often would rather have a mid first + goof player + top prospect instead. But i think in this case it’s too unrealistic of quantity that it would never happen. If a Konecny trade to the leafs happens it will likely cost Knies. Which leafs would just walk away from and sign someone in FA.


I think some form of TK for Liljegren plus a 1st and 2nd could get the deal done. But being realistic none of ur prospects are that good aside from Liljegren or Knies
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 36
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1 flyers fan agrees lol 1. I’d also happily take it but that’s because it’s all you have left to offer. Robertson is always injured, Minten has average stats, Niemela is too early to tell, Voit has worse stats than Frost did lol. Sorry but this is the definition of mid at best. Stats don’t lie.

Well yes they are prospects. Looking off Robertson and Niemela by saying too early to tell and always injured is ignorant. Voit lead OHL in points… Niemela won best defensman in World Juniors… Minten is a second round pick… Robertson is a very good scorer in the AHL as well as in the NHL but than gets injured… AND 2 firsts… cmon man. Don’t complain lmao
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: radtad
I actually don’t disagree. I agree it’s barely enough, but as it currently stands, we could use all those prospects. If we start selling off and getting decent prospects, the ones you think are valuable, are going to be about the same value as the ones we could get from other teams. Keep your Mintens, Voits, and robertsons if they have value to you. As soon as you trade them to an organization with better depth, they aren’t as valuable


This 100%
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 37
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If you’d like to spend like, 1/4 the assets can I interest you in a Conor garland instead?


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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 38
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Well yes they are prospects. Looking off Robertson and Niemela by saying too early to tell and always injured is ignorant. Voit lead OHL in points… Niemela won best defensman in World Juniors… Minten is a second round pick… Robertson is a very good scorer in the AHL as well as in the NHL but than gets injured… AND 2 firsts… cmon man. Don’t complain lmao


It’s just quantity we have plenty of prospects just as good and probably better. We need prospects and picks that will be better than we already have like @radtad said. If we are just going to acquire 20 middle 6 players we will never come out of a rebuild lol
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 39
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
I think some form of TK for Liljegren plus a 1st and 2nd could get the deal done. But being realistic none of ur prospects are that good aside from Liljegren or Knies

See that just blows my mind. 1st + 2nd and Liljegren gets Konecny? I literally just offered what 2 firsts, Niemela, Voit, Minten, Robertson. Yes Liljegren is a quality young player but it kinda blows my mind on the value
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 39
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If you’d like to spend like, 1/4 the assets can I interest you in a Conor garland instead?




You: can we get TK?
Mom: we have TK at home
The TK at home: ‘this infographic’
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12 juin 2023 à 22 h 40
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Tried to make Philly inticed due to all the rejecting so we will see there response


They want the moon for Laughton. Waiting for their response is nuts
12 juin 2023 à 22 h 40
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They want the moon for Laughton. Waiting for their response is nuts


The moon: what reporters are reporting the Flyers have asked for and not what they have already turned down
 
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