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PLD To COL

Créé par: TheLand
Publié: 8 juin 2023 à 10 h 30
Plafond salarial: 83 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 185/186 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a été refusée, car une des équipes ne rencontre pas l'exigence minimale de 3 gardiens de but

Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoAvalanche du Colorado

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Newhook, AlexAvalanche du ColoradoLNH-0 $011---0000--
Beaucage, AlexExempté du ballottageAvalanche du ColoradoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoCOL)---100------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dubois, Pierre-LucJets de WinnipegLNH-0 $011---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 350 000 $1226363110
Variation0 $0-1-1-100
Final13 350 000 $1225 (↓)35 (↓)2 (↓)110000

Logo de Jets de WinnipegJets de Winnipeg

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dubois, Pierre-LucJets de WinnipegLNH-0 $011---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Newhook, AlexAvalanche du ColoradoLNH-0 $011---0000--
Beaucage, AlexExempté du ballottageAvalanche du ColoradoMineures-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Avalanche du ColoradoCOL)---100------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial12 992 143 $1532443410
Variation0 $011100
Final12 992 143 $1533 (↑)45 (↑)4 (↑)410000
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 49
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Note to Habs fans: This is the type of offer Winnipeg is likely to get for PLD as rental and what you'll have to beat to get him now.
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8 juin 2023 à 13 h 52
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Note to Habs fans: This is the type of offer Winnipeg is likely to get for PLD as rental and what you'll have to beat to get him now.


if Avs do this, it is, PLD is not a rental to them imo
8 juin 2023 à 15 h 36
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if Avs do this, it is, PLD is not a rental to them imo


A late 1st, bottom 6 roster player and a B prospect is a rental price.
8 juin 2023 à 15 h 37
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A late 1st, bottom 6 roster player and a B prospect is a rental price.


moreso: they are trying to resign him if they're giving up a 1st imo
8 juin 2023 à 15 h 57
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moreso: they are trying to resign him if they're giving up a 1st imo


High end rentals fetch a late 1st and more all the time. Especially if you'll have them for the full year at a low AAV.
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8 juin 2023 à 16 h 3
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High end rentals fetch a late 1st and more all the time. Especially if you'll have them for the full year at a low AAV.


totally, just saying that the avs so few prospects and picks that they sort of have to attempt some term here
8 juin 2023 à 22 h 34
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Note to Habs fans: This is the type of offer Winnipeg is likely to get for PLD as rental and what you'll have to beat to get him now.


That what you call a good offer ?

#27 in 2023, an bottom 6 young guys in beaucage and an prospect who have show nothing earth breaking with average of 30 pts per year.

This is pretty similar as an trade of: #31/32 along Dvorak Kidney
8 juin 2023 à 22 h 46
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Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
That what you call a good offer ?

#27 in 2023, an bottom 6 young guys in beaucage and an prospect who have show nothing earth breaking with average of 30 pts per year.

This is pretty similar as an trade of: #31/32 along Dvorak Kidney


I didn't say it was a good offer I said Winnipeg is likely to get offers like for rental PLD. What I really meant though was that's the minimum Montreal would have to beat. It certainly could be even more.

27 > 31
Newhook > Dvorak
Kidney > Beaucage but Kidney is nothing special
9 juin 2023 à 0 h 5
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Quoting: MoxNix
I didn't say it was a good offer I said Winnipeg is likely to get offers like for rental PLD. What I really meant though was that's the minimum Montreal would have to beat. It certainly could be even more.

27 > 31
Newhook > Dvorak
Kidney > Beaucage but Kidney is nothing special


4 spot on good draft its not that much difference but lets put a fifth round pick to counter balance between both pick, And while Newhook is young and have potentiel i play as third center and produce like one as Dvorak is able to do in an good team he's agreat third center that can play time on the second line and PK . And kidney may not be the prospect A but he's got good stats, he 210 pts in 126 game in QMJHL. Did produce an 22 pts this playoffs in 13 game. that an good potentiel on a third or second line and he's center.
9 juin 2023 à 8 h 37
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Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
4 spot on good draft its not that much difference but lets put a fifth round pick to counter balance between both pick, And while Newhook is young and have potentiel i play as third center and produce like one as Dvorak is able to do in an good team he's agreat third center that can play time on the second line and PK . And kidney may not be the prospect A but he's got good stats, he 210 pts in 126 game in QMJHL. Did produce an 22 pts this playoffs in 13 game. that an good potentiel on a third or second line and he's center.


No team is trading down 4 spots in the 1st round for a 5th. Especially not before the draft. Even at the draft moments before the higher pick is used it usually takes a 3rd to move up even just a few spots. At the 2020 draft Calgary moved down twice and picked up 2 3rds (one for each move down). Dropping 3 spots the first time and 2 spots the second time from 19th in the first place to 24th in the end where they selected Connor Zary.

Newhook and Dvorak are about the same when it comes to production both have had opportunities to be a second line center and were disappointing there. IOW they're both 3rd line centers. However Newhook is 5 years younger, makes a lot less money (nearly 5X less) and though he'll get a raise as an RFA right now he won't get that kind of money will be under team control for a while yet and still has potential to get better. Dvorak is overpaid UFA in 2 years and at 27 years old is about as good as he'll ever be.
 
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