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The Re-something

Créé par: njlaforte
Équipe: 2023-24 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2023
Publié: 8 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 000 000 $
63 750 000 $
1800 000 $
43 900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
46 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Drury, Jack
  2. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
CAR
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
2.
WPG
  1. Chytil, Filip
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
2nd becomes a 1st if Rangers make the finals
NYR
  1. Scheifele, Mark (3 062 500 $ retained)
3.
WPG
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. Samsonov, Ilya [Droits de RFA]
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
TOR
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (3 083 333 $ retained)
4.
WPG
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
COL
  1. Wheeler, Blake (4 125 000 $ retained)
5.
WPG
SJS
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
6.
WPG
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
7.
WPG
NJD
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Severson Rights
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de WPG
Logo de CAR
Logo de BOS
Logo de VAN
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
2024
Logo de WPG
Logo de NYR
Logo de WPG
Logo de NYI
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
2025
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $79 134 524 $0 $1 275 000 $4 365 476 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
7 142 857 $7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Rangers de New York
4 437 500 $4 437 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
850 000 $850 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
2 166 667 $2 166 667 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
800 000 $800 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1

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8 juin 2023 à 10 h 21
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I can't see Carolina doing that tbh but I could be wrong
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8 juin 2023 à 10 h 23
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Quoting: jnorrrr
I can't see Carolina doing that tbh but I could be wrong


I saw it on another ACGM... and it seemed like CAR fans were into it.
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 23
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Can't see the Avs touching Wheeler with a 10 foot pole. Don't need that in the room.
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 25
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there are 1000 reasons to not want wheeler... and yet, that trade seems pretty generous to the avs. If Mack was willing to whip him into shape, i would cautiously consider.
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8 juin 2023 à 10 h 25
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Quoting: MeetYourMakar
Can't see the Avs touching Wheeler with a 10 foot pole. Don't need that in the room.


Maybe not the avs...but I gotta think someone would bite on that at the deadline going into a playoff push just because wheeler is a big body with some name value.
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8 juin 2023 à 10 h 25
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Quoting: MeetYourMakar
Can't see the Avs touching Wheeler with a 10 foot pole. Don't need that in the room.


More of an "anywhere" trade. Just thought of the Avs since Landeskog is out for the season if not longer. Another contender would be interested.
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8 juin 2023 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: swissmontana
there are 1000 reasons to not want wheeler... and yet, that trade seems pretty generous to the avs. If Mack was willing to whip him into shape, i would cautiously consider.


He is still a good player... just needs a change. You get a 60 point player at 4.125M for a 4th. Even on a 3rd line and PP he can provide some value, especially for only a 4th.
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 36
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I struggle to see how a 2C in dubois who leaves the jets with zero leverage fetches that return

too much to pay for a goalie when Adin Hill is probably going to win the cup this year
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 45
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Since Grier wouldnt commit to calling ours a rebuild or a retool I have started to call it a re-sharking.

Not enough value to take Scmidt.
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8 juin 2023 à 10 h 45
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Toronto has a goalie and isn't going to massively overpay you to get Hellebuyck. He's a top goalie but he's not worth that at all (that's far more than the Avs paid for Darcy Kuempfer in a similar situation). And the Avs were more desperate.
8 juin 2023 à 10 h 55
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Drury definitely considers that, but I don't think Drury would trade Chytil, who's already become a very praised player in the Rangers system and whos production could very well match Scheifle in a few years at the rate he's developing, for someone who could turn out as a 1 year rental. This might be smthn he revisits at the trade deadline though.
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 9
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Quoting: DangleCat
Maybe not the avs...but I gotta think someone would bite on that at the deadline going into a playoff push just because wheeler is a big body with some name value.


colorado does this all day and doesn't think twice about it. Wheeler is fine, they've had issues with the coach and the team isn't going anywhere then they strip him of the C as well, i wouldn't be happy to be there either
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 11
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Quoting: MeetYourMakar
Can't see the Avs touching Wheeler with a 10 foot pole. Don't need that in the room.


they take this deal all day. as soon as he's in a new locker room he will be fine
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: njlaforte
I saw it on another ACGM... and it seemed like CAR fans were into it.


Canes should do that if there is an extension.
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8 juin 2023 à 11 h 20
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Easy no thanks from the Rangers. Not trading Chytil and his new contract for 1 year of no D Scheif.
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 37
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
they take this deal all day. as soon as he's in a new locker room he will be fine


Quoting: DangleCat
Maybe not the avs...but I gotta think someone would bite on that at the deadline going into a playoff push just because wheeler is a big body with some name value.


Quoting: njlaforte
He is still a good player... just needs a change. You get a 60 point player at 4.125M for a 4th. Even on a 3rd line and PP he can provide some value, especially for only a 4th.


Value is fine but he has been one of the more toxic people in that room for years now, seems like an annual thing at least. Why would you assume once he comes to Colorado, he would have a complete personality change? Kadri might have had issues, but it wasn't in the room. Sure when things are fresh and fun, it's easy. What happens when things don't go his way? 30 seconds of pp2 time a game doesn't really do much for me. 4.125m is still a lot of cap to spend on a cancer that could do more harm than good.
If the Avs get to October and havent gotten the pieces they need, it's w.e.
8 juin 2023 à 11 h 45
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
colorado does this all day and doesn't think twice about it. Wheeler is fine, they've had issues with the coach and the team isn't going anywhere then they strip him of the C as well, i wouldn't be happy to be there either


When P.M was his coach(who loooved B.W), he was an asshat to the fellow players and made life more miserable than needed. He loses his coach and now is a problem with his new coach, who's next? To me he is someone that will always find someone he has an issue to the point the hockey world knows about it. Don't need that one bit.
8 juin 2023 à 12 h 35
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When P.M was his coach(who loooved B.W), he was an asshat to the fellow players and made life more miserable than needed. He loses his coach and now is a problem with his new coach, who's next? To me he is someone that will always find someone he has an issue to the point the hockey world knows about it. Don't need that one bit.


Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't remember the coach or the players ever coming out and saying wheeler is ruining the locker room did they? So we really only have what media gives us and especially with canadian teams it is blown way out of proportion. Living in winnipeg for 8 months of the year is bad enough, losing in winnipeg for multiple years is enough to make anyone not be happy playing there.
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8 juin 2023 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: newballcoach
Toronto has a goalie and isn't going to massively overpay you to get Hellebuyck. He's a top goalie but he's not worth that at all (that's far more than the Avs paid for Darcy Kuempfer in a similar situation). And the Avs were more desperate.


Are you saying Hellebuyck and Kuemper are the same???
8 juin 2023 à 14 h 7
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Are you saying Hellebuyck and Kuemper are the same???


The situations are incredibly similar. They're not radically different players in the sense that one should be valued far more than the other. Hellebuyck is of course better, but worth nowhere near what your package is. Especially from a team that does not need a goalie since they already have one.
 
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