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Hart and Konecny mega deal

Créé par: smokewiseganja
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2023
Publié: 6 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 200 000 $
21 200 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
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EDM
  1. Allison, Wade
  2. Hart, Carter
  3. Konecny, Travis
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (PHI)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
PHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Broberg, Philip
  3. Campbell, Jack
  4. Tullio, Tyler
  5. Yamamoto, Kailer
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
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NMC
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UFA - 5
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NMC
UFA - 3
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
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775 000 $775 000 $
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785 000 $785 000 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
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3 979 000 $3 979 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
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UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 juin 2023 à 19 h 31
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That’s not enough for TK and Hart. Half of that return is what Campbell costs to dump. So the trade would be Campbell dump for a 1st and 2nd, TK for 1st Bourg and Brob, so then Hart for Tullio and Yamo? That’s just not good enough for Hart and the deal as a whole lol
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6 juin 2023 à 19 h 32
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Calgary would have 0 interest is Foegle
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6 juin 2023 à 19 h 39
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Quoting: Gmonwy
Calgary would have 0 interest is Foegle


its just a general trade anywhere not just calgary but I feel like he'd fit there well
6 juin 2023 à 19 h 41
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That’s not enough for TK and Hart. Half of that return is what Campbell costs to dump. So the trade would be Campbell dump for a 1st and 2nd, TK for 1st Bourg and Brob, so then Hart for Tullio and Yamo? That’s just not good enough for Hart and the deal as a whole lol


When people include cap dump contracts in deals, you never are just paying outright to dump the contract. It's so that the other team can get more assets - Think of the Eichel deal or the orlov/hathaway deal. The flyers take Campbell (who would absolutely not cost a 1st and a 2nd to dump, are you crazy?) in order to procure some extra assets. This is just a straight futures for current players swap
6 juin 2023 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: smokewiseganja
When people include cap dump contracts in deals, you never are just paying outright to dump the contract. It's so that the other team can get more assets - Think of the Eichel deal or the orlov/hathaway deal. The flyers take Campbell (who would absolutely not cost a 1st and a 2nd to dump, are you crazy?) in order to procure some extra assets. This is just a straight futures for current players swap


He’s owed $20M and he sucks if you think ur easily moving it ur hilarious lol this deal isn’t good enough
6 juin 2023 à 19 h 45
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Quoting: smokewiseganja
When people include cap dump contracts in deals, you never are just paying outright to dump the contract. It's so that the other team can get more assets - Think of the Eichel deal or the orlov/hathaway deal. The flyers take Campbell (who would absolutely not cost a 1st and a 2nd to dump, are you crazy?) in order to procure some extra assets. This is just a straight futures for current players swap


The eichel deal where there wasn’t a single cap dump? Lol

This doesn’t get you both even without taking the “dumps” into consideration
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6 juin 2023 à 19 h 49
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
He’s owed $20M and he sucks if you think ur easily moving it ur hilarious lol this deal isn’t good enough


4 firsts worth of futures sure is easily moving campbell
6 juin 2023 à 19 h 50
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Quoting: VGKNation702
The eichel deal where there wasn’t a single cap dump? Lol

This doesn’t get you both even without taking the “dumps” into consideration


eichel wasn't a cap dump but they took money back in order to get more assets is my point
6 juin 2023 à 19 h 52
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4 firsts worth of futures sure is easily moving campbell


Campbell is going to cost quite a bit to move. The thing here is that what u offered doesn’t get you Hart TK our 3rd and is taking on Campbell. Multiple people have told you it’s not enough and u still think ur the one that’s right lmao
6 juin 2023 à 20 h 3
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Quoting: TheBigFlyera
Campbell is going to cost quite a bit to move. The thing here is that what u offered doesn’t get you Hart TK our 3rd and is taking on Campbell. Multiple people have told you it’s not enough and u still think ur the one that’s right lmao


What he doesn’t understand is cap dumps usually occur in the 2nd last or last year of the deal, that is 4 years of 5 million dollars being wasted for Philly
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6 juin 2023 à 20 h 16
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What he doesn’t understand is cap dumps usually occur in the 2nd last or last year of the deal, that is 4 years of 5 million dollars being wasted for Philly


Thank you lmao like it’s $20M!!! in cap that doesn’t come cheap. Murray will probably take a 2nd or 3rd to dump if you guys decide to dump him and his cap is what $4?
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6 juin 2023 à 20 h 53
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Quoting: smokewiseganja
When people include cap dump contracts in deals, you never are just paying outright to dump the contract. It's so that the other team can get more assets - Think of the Eichel deal or the orlov/hathaway deal. The flyers take Campbell (who would absolutely not cost a 1st and a 2nd to dump, are you crazy?) in order to procure some extra assets. This is just a straight futures for current players swap


It costs the Kings 2 2nds to dump $8mil over 2yrs. It absolutely would cost Edmonton a 1st+ to dump $15million.
6 juin 2023 à 20 h 57
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eichel wasn't a cap dump but they took money back in order to get more assets is my point


Lol what money did they take back? Are you talking about Tuch? That's one of the better contracts in the league. He's a Buffalo guy the Sabers would have insisted on. Vegas I imagine would have tried to move money elsewhere to keep him.
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6 juin 2023 à 20 h 57
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eichel wasn't a cap dump but they took money back in order to get more assets is my point


Yeah but they took back Alex Tuch at just under 5M, after going 18-15-33 in 55 games. He has actual value in the trade, unlike Campbell
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6 juin 2023 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: phillyjabroni
Yeah but they took back Alex Tuch at just under 5M, after going 18-15-33 in 55 games. He has actual value in the trade, unlike Campbell


Lol right they took back the main piece of the trade a top 6 winger locked up under 5 million a year and was from Buffalo.
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