SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

2023-24 Anaheim Ducks Adam Fantilli

Créé par: OSv38
Équipe: 2023-24 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 3 juin 2023
Publié: 3 juin 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3880 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 050 000 $
1950 000 $
87 125 000 $
86 125 000 $
2900 000 $
32 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 525 000 $
45 300 000 $
32 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3925 000 $
Transactions
ANA
  1. Boqvist, Jesper [Droits de RFA]
  2. Vanecek, Vitek
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (COL)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Gibson, John (3 200 000 $ retained)
  2. Henrique, Adam
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de BOS
Logo de COL
Logo de ANA
Logo de MIN
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
2024
Logo de ANA
Logo de NJD
Logo de ANA
Logo de BOS
Logo de ANA
Logo de PIT
Logo de SJS
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de COL
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
2025
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de NJD
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de MIN
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
Logo de ANA
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $64 739 167 $0 $3 132 500 $18 760 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
7 125 000 $7 125 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 3
Fantilli, Adam
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 7
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 525 000 $1 525 000 $
AG, C
UFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 295 000 $1 295 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance550 000 $$550K)
DG
RFA - 3
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
844 167 $844 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
950 000 $950 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
850 000 $850 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 19
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2021
Messages: 15,874
Mentions "j'aime": 12,228
Quick — please delete

Anaheim isn’t trading Gibson 50% retained and Rico for scraps
OldNYIfan et Fat_Geralt a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 20
#2
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,625
Once again that lame offer doesn't get John Gibson retained at 50% for the next 4 years. Need to add a 1st round pick if you want retention.
OSv38, OldNYIfan et Fat_Geralt a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 20
#3
Future Norris guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2022
Messages: 15,605
Mentions "j'aime": 8,625
Once again that lame offer doesn't get John Gibson retained at 50% for the next 4 years. Need to add a 1st round pick if you want retention.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 22
#4
Démarrer sujet
Owen Singh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 37
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: MoSeider53
Once again that lame offer doesn't get John Gibson retained at 50% for the next 4 years. Need to add a 1st round pick if you want retention.


I originally had a first alongside those picks but I removed it following some discussion with other fans. I'll modify the trade on both of the simulations and see the feedback.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 23
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2019
Messages: 41,207
Mentions "j'aime": 18,739
Good value for NJD, would have to consider it
SPdevotee a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 38
#6
Devils Guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 1,370
Mentions "j'aime": 366
NJD can’t officially trade the 2024 1st round pick because it’s conditional on the Timo Meier trade.
OldNYIfan a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 42
#7
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 40,899
Mentions "j'aime": 25,714
Bottom-6 Boqvist and backup Vanecek are no improvement on Henrique and Gibson, especially if Vanecek ends up costing us more for his two seasons than two seasons of Gibson would cost us.

The charm of including Vanecek in any proposed trade is vitiated by the fact that we think Lukas Dostal (whom you failed to re-sign) has a brighter future than Vanecek does. And for the next two seasons, he's a LOT cheaper.

Any Gibson trade starts with a 2023 first. You can argue that it ends there -- that's an opinion that's shared by many -- but that's where it starts. Add a first for any significant retention.

We have no incentive to move Rico. The acquiring team has to give us one, inasmuch as he would be the perfect linemate for Adam Fantilli. Frankly, Boqvist and the over-the-horizon second wouldn't make my fingers twitch.

Quoting: MoSeider53
Once again that lame offer doesn't get John Gibson retained at 50% for the next 4 years. Need to add a 1st round pick if you want retention.

You can say THAT again.

Quoting: NHLfan10506
Good value for NJD, would have to consider it

Good value for NJD because we're getting stolen blind.
MoSeider53 et Fat_Geralt a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 45
#8
Devils Guy
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2020
Messages: 1,370
Mentions "j'aime": 366
Guys, call me crazy, I’d rather not trade for Gibson. I think Vanecek and Schmid are actually our guys. Plus we know Daws will be good and hopefully Brennan to.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 52
#9
Démarrer sujet
Owen Singh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 37
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: OldNYIfan
Bottom-6 Boqvist and backup Vanecek are no improvement on Henrique and Gibson, especially if Vanecek ends up costing us more for his two seasons than two seasons of Gibson would cost us.

The charm of including Vanecek in any proposed trade is vitiated by the fact that we think Lukas Dostal (whom you failed to re-sign) has a brighter future than Vanecek does. And for the next two seasons, he's a LOT cheaper.

Any Gibson trade starts with a 2023 first. You can argue that it ends there -- that's an opinion that's shared by many -- but that's where it starts. Add a first for any significant retention.

We have no incentive to move Rico. The acquiring team has to give us one, inasmuch as he would be the perfect linemate for Adam Fantilli. Frankly, Boqvist and the over-the-horizon second wouldn't make my fingers twitch.


You can say THAT again.


Good value for NJD because we're getting stolen blind.


What's with the aggression bud? I understand you have fair criticisms for the trade but bashing my simulations this much is quite unusual for a GM tool that is truthfully basic. Labelling Boqvist as a bottom-six forward is underselling the top six ceiling still existent in his game (and encouraging signs displayed for the Devils).

Also Gibson is not the goaltender Ducks fans believe he is, despite being a near-elite goaltender at this level.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 54
#10
Démarrer sujet
Owen Singh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 37
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: DevilsFanZack13
Guys, call me crazy, I’d rather not trade for Gibson. I think Vanecek and Schmid are actually our guys. Plus we know Daws will be good and hopefully Brennan to.


I actually don't think New Jersey needs to make this trade, but it's an option I wanted to explore because Gibson and Henrique rumors are quite intriguing and New Jersey may be a serviceable destination. Definitely not an easy trade to execute for either team involved, but intriguing regardless.
DevilsFanZack13 a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 18 h 56
#11
Démarrer sujet
Owen Singh
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 37
Mentions "j'aime": 7
Quoting: DevilsFanZack13
Guys, call me crazy, I’d rather not trade for Gibson. I think Vanecek and Schmid are actually our guys. Plus we know Daws will be good and hopefully Brennan to.


I love New Jersey's team with both sets of players and I have utmost belief in them being one of the NHL's best next teams next season if Meier and Bratt return.
DevilsFanZack13 a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 19 h 26
#12
Once a Kings Fan Too
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 40,899
Mentions "j'aime": 25,714
Quoting: OSv38
What's with the aggression bud? I understand you have fair criticisms for the trade but bashing my simulations this much is quite unusual for a GM tool that is truthfully basic. Labelling Boqvist as a bottom-six forward is underselling the top six ceiling still existent in his game (and encouraging signs displayed for the Devils).

Also Gibson is not the goaltender Ducks fans believe he is, despite being a near-elite goaltender at this level.

I don't see any aggressive language in my previous comment. I gave you a series of reasons why this trade idea is so inadequate from Anaheim's point of view. I'll reinforce it with a different insight: $12.8 million in retention is worth a first-round draft pick in and of itself. The idea that Gibson = Vanecek plus the second and Henrique = Boqvist plus the fifth is simply absurd, on any objective level.

The fact that you say Boqvist has "a top-6 ceiling still existent in his game" and thus hasn't reached it yet concedes the accuracy of my statement that he doesn't have that status now.
GeneralLandro a aimé ceci.
3 juin 2023 à 19 h 34
#13
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2018
Messages: 7,261
Mentions "j'aime": 2,706
Quoting: GeneralLandro
Quick — please delete

Anaheim isn’t trading Gibson 50% retained and Rico for scraps


Rico>Gibby
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage