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Taking a Chance

Créé par: GladeBang12
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 30 mai 2023
Publié: 30 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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30 mai 2023 à 23 h 33
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Nah I'm good with not having a homophobe on the team.
30 mai 2023 à 23 h 39
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The Flyers would probably accept
30 mai 2023 à 23 h 46
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Quoting: soft_dump_in_the_corner
Nah I'm good with not having a homophobe on the team.


What if it meant winning the Stanley Cup?
31 mai 2023 à 0 h 8
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Flyers will go for it, you got a deal.
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31 mai 2023 à 0 h 14
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Quoting: GladeBang12
What if it meant winning the Stanley Cup?


Fans can say whatever they want because their job isn’t to make a winning team. A GM will sign/trade for whoever they need if they think it will improve the team.
31 mai 2023 à 1 h 37
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Quoting: Samsoc222
The Flyers would probably accept


You think so? I’d be shocked if they let him go for so little unless he publicly comes out and says he wants to move. He’s a work horse and still young. I think a lot of GM’s would be willing to gamble on him, especially if they have a true #1 to play him with. Basically I think someone offers a better deal and if not, I think the Flyers keep him.
31 mai 2023 à 1 h 57
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Quoting: Samsoc222
Fans can say whatever they want because their job isn’t to make a winning team. A GM will sign/trade for whoever they need if they think it will improve the team.


If a GM thinks Provorov is going to improve any team with the opportunity cost you lose by locking yourself to that player at that salary, your GM is not a serious GM.
31 mai 2023 à 6 h 49
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Quoting: GladeBang12
What if it meant winning the Stanley Cup?


Nah I'm good.
Stanley Cups are great and all but not giving a platform to hatred is more important.
31 mai 2023 à 8 h 10
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Minus his off ice personality. This is a very solid team
31 mai 2023 à 8 h 40
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Quoting: Clarky11
You think so? I’d be shocked if they let him go for so little unless he publicly comes out and says he wants to move. He’s a work horse and still young. I think a lot of GM’s would be willing to gamble on him, especially if they have a true #1 to play him with. Basically I think someone offers a better deal and if not, I think the Flyers keep him.


I think this is a decent offer for him personally not sure how they get too much more unless they retain
31 mai 2023 à 8 h 42
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Quoting: soft_dump_in_the_corner
Nah I'm good.
Stanley Cups are great and all but not giving a platform to hatred is more important.


GMs disagree with you. They make moves for guys with questionable characters all of the time. Kane and Toews knew about the scandal in Chicago and covered it up to win a cup. DeAngelo is on his like 3rd or 4th team. Teams are literally salivating at the thought of Quennville being reinstated. The GMs job is to make their team better, and most GMs will do that without care of the baggage that comes with it
31 mai 2023 à 8 h 43
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
If a GM thinks Provorov is going to improve any team with the opportunity cost you lose by locking yourself to that player at that salary, your GM is not a serious GM.


Dude it’s a 2 year contract and the Flyers can retain salary. Provy would be one of the best 2nd pairing defensemen in the league and is still a low end 1st pairing guy with a good partner. If you don’t like him as a person that’s totally fair but the dude on the ice eats minutes and blocks shots at will. Saying he won’t improve the team is ridiculous lol
31 mai 2023 à 8 h 49
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Quoting: Samsoc222
The Flyers would probably accept


They absolutely shouldn't
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31 mai 2023 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
They absolutely shouldn't


Idk man Provy’s value is heavily debated lol. I have no idea what they are going to get for him this summer because more likely than not he will be moved
31 mai 2023 à 8 h 53
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Quoting: Samsoc222
Idk man Provy’s value is heavily debated lol. I have no idea what they are going to get for him this summer because more likely than not he will be moved


If that's all we get, he stays a Flyer.
31 mai 2023 à 9 h 44
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Quoting: Samsoc222
Dude it’s a 2 year contract and the Flyers can retain salary. Provy would be one of the best 2nd pairing defensemen in the league and is still a low end 1st pairing guy with a good partner. If you don’t like him as a person that’s totally fair but the dude on the ice eats minutes and blocks shots at will. Saying he won’t improve the team is ridiculous lol


Lol I will always be amazed that fans can spend countless hours watching the players on their teams and somehow still be so clueless. Provorov is not close to a low-end 1. Lol he has one good year. He will need to be next to a dman that will need to prop him up, and he has never shown that he can take on top comp and perform well. All that for $6.7mil? It's laughable.
31 mai 2023 à 9 h 47
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
Lol I will always be amazed that fans can spend countless hours watching the players on their teams and somehow still be so clueless. Provorov is not close to a low-end 1. Lol he has one good year. He will need to be next to a dman that will need to prop him up, and he has never shown that he can take on top comp and perform well. All that for $6.7mil? It's laughable.


Nobody is debating that Provy needs a good partner next to him that’s why he’s not a true #1 but he absolutely can be a 1A/1B player. Provy and Niskanen were one of the best pairings in the league in 2019 and the Flyers literally were the hottest team in the league before COVID hit and nosedived the team. He hasn’t had a real partner since then because of Flyers mismanagement. He can easily take on top competition with a good partner next to him and history proves that. If ur just gonna troll, get lost.
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31 mai 2023 à 9 h 55
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Quoting: Samsoc222
Nobody is debating that Provy needs a good partner next to him that’s why he’s not a true #1 but he absolutely can be a 1A/1B player. Provy and Niskanen were one of the best pairings in the league in 2019 and the Flyers literally were the hottest team in the league before COVID hit and nosedived the team. He hasn’t had a real partner since then because of Flyers mismanagement. He can easily take on top competition with a good partner next to him and history proves that. If ur just gonna troll, get lost.


I agree that Provy needs that stable vet RHD but where do you find one? Those guys are overvalued. Gamble on a Dumba? Isn’t Klingberg a UFA? Overpaying for two guys who haven’t been great and no reason to think the mesh well with Provy. At least Nisky was Russian, and pretty cheap. Petry? Guys been pretty good actually but old, injury prone and locked in for awhile. Plus he’s a penguin. Would he be a stop gab until one of the RHD they draft in next years draft rolls in? They don’t have an in house solution. If they keep Provy they need to find him a partner.
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31 mai 2023 à 11 h 9
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Nobody is debating that Provy needs a good partner next to him that’s why he’s not a true #1 but he absolutely can be a 1A/1B player. Provy and Niskanen were one of the best pairings in the league in 2019 and the Flyers literally were the hottest team in the league before COVID hit and nosedived the team. He hasn’t had a real partner since then because of Flyers mismanagement. He can easily take on top competition with a good partner next to him and history proves that. If ur just gonna troll, get lost.


One season.
Quoting: Samsoc222
Nobody is debating that Provy needs a good partner next to him that’s why he’s not a true #1 but he absolutely can be a 1A/1B player. Provy and Niskanen were one of the best pairings in the league in 2019 and the Flyers literally were the hottest team in the league before COVID hit and nosedived the team. He hasn’t had a real partner since then because of Flyers mismanagement. He can easily take on top competition with a good partner next to him and history proves that. If ur just gonna troll, get lost.


Like I said. One season.
31 mai 2023 à 11 h 25
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Quoting: TooMalevolent
One season.

Like I said. One season.


He had good seasons before that too bud. Him and Ghost did great another year before that. The team has been a dumpster fire since COVID and they haven’t replaced him with a partner. 95% of defenseman in this league would look bad if they had Risto, Seeler, Gustafson next to them on a top pairing and that’s only a few to name. He also had to play with Connauton and Ghost as his defensive game was dying. DeAngelo who had a horrible year defensively and a bunch of rookies too. Provy hasn’t been set up to succeed and there’s maybe 5-6 guys in the whole league who would be able to.
 
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