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Créé par: DirtyDangles
Équipe: 2023-24 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 19 mai 2023
Publié: 26 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
32 750 000 $
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1900 000 $
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PHI
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
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PHI
  1. Roslovic, Jack
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (LAK)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Hayes, Kevin (2 142 857 $ retained)
  2. Provorov, Ivan
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PHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (ANA)
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ANA
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 10
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LOL my old-timer highschool Social Studies teacher used to say this all the time, while flapping his old man jowels.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 14
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LOL my old-timer highschool Social Studies teacher used to say this all the time, while flapping his old man jowels.


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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 22
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Not gonna lie I hate that TI trade I know the pick is high but I don’t think it’s enough
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: Samsoc22
Not gonna lie I hate that TI trade I know the pick is high but I don’t think it’s enough


I think you are overvaluing him. You aren't going to get the type of return Debrincat did coming off what would have been b2b 40 goal seasons.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 51
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Canucks aren’t trading 11OA for a winger. We already have to many wingers
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 53
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I think you are overvaluing him. You aren't going to get the type of return Debrincat did coming off what would have been b2b 40 goal seasons.


Maybe, maybe not. Just not a big fan of that package
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 0
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Quoting: mv21227
Canucks aren’t trading 11OA for a winger. We already have to many wingers


Kuzmenko/EP40/Konecny
Beauvillier/JT MIller/Boeser
Hoglander or Podkolzin/Raty/Garland

Tell me again how you have too many good wingers?
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Kuzmenko/EP40/Konecny
Beauvillier/JT MIller/Boeser
Hoglander or Podkolzin/Raty/Garland

Tell me again how you have too many good wingers?


We also have Mikheyev, who will play with Petey and Kuzmenko as they played extremely well together. One of Boeser or Garland will likely be moved, which lets us round out the top 9 with Garland/Boeser, Beauvillier, Podkolzin, and Hoglander (I think both Podkolzin and Hoglander need a real shot in the top 9 this year)

Konecny is a great player don’t get me wrong, and would be a top 2 winger on the Canucks, I just don’t think the Canucks are the right fit for him at this time. Maybe if we end up moving both Boeser and Garland
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 7
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We also have Mikheyev, who will play with Petey and Kuzmenko as they played extremely well together. One of Boeser or Garland will likely be moved, which lets us round out the top 9 with Garland/Boeser, Beauvillier, Podkolzin, and Hoglander (I think both Podkolzin and Hoglander need a real shot in the top 9 this year)

Konecny is a great player don’t get me wrong, and would be a top 2 winger on the Canucks, I just don’t think the Canucks are the right fit for him at this time. Maybe if we end up moving both Boeser and Garland


Have fun with your 2 legit top 6 wingers. Might as well go into rebuild mode.
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 24
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Canucks decline. The last thing we need is to be adding more expensive wingers.
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: Epic_Ninja_Dude
Canucks decline. The last thing we need is to be adding more expensive wingers.


You left out the word "good"...you are missing good wingers
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 46
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I don't see Canucks trading Myers for Konecny.
It just doesn't make sense.
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 53
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I don't see Canucks trading Myers for Konecny.
It just doesn't make sense.


Getting a useful player for a useless player doesn't make sense?
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 54
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
Getting a useful player for a useless player doesn't make sense.


Konecny wasn't that good when he was playing with the Flyers.
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 56
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Konecny wasn't that good when he was playing with the Flyers.


61 points in 60 games is not good...got it!
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 57
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61 points in 60 games is not good...got it!


So you think he could be a valuable player for Vancouver in 2023-2024 season?
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 59
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So you think he could be a valuable player for Vancouver in 2023-2024 season?


If you mean by being your top line RWer, then ya
26 mai 2023 à 15 h 59
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
If you mean by being your top line RWer, then ya


I agree with you on that.
26 mai 2023 à 16 h 1
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Canucks aren't a great landing spot for Konecny. We have enough wingers and wouldn't be all too interested. Value is fair, just not a great team for him to go to
26 mai 2023 à 16 h 2
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Canucks aren't a great landing spot for Konecny. We have enough wingers and wouldn't be all too interested. Value is fair, just not a great team for him to go to


There seems to be this misconception by Canucks fans that he is just another winger. He would be the #1 or #2 winger on the team. Just because you have a lot of not so good wingers, doesn't mean you don't get a good one.
26 mai 2023 à 16 h 7
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There seems to be this misconception by Canucks fans that he is just another winger. He would be the #1 or #2 winger on the team. Just because you have a lot of not so good wingers, doesn't mean you don't get a good one.


Yeah but that's not the issue. I'd love for a star winger but if you're Vancouver, you need pretty much everything else more. Centres, Defence, Prospects. Adding to an already overcrowded group of winger's doesn't make sense.
26 mai 2023 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
You left out the word "good"...you are missing good wingers


Sure, Konecny would be one of our best wingers. However, just because a player is an improvement doesn’t mean it makes sense to trade for him. We are fine at winger, investing more money just to create a bigger logjam doesn’t make sense. Not only does this deal strengthen our strongest position, but it also weakens our already weak prospect pool by losing the 11th puck in a stacked draft. On top of that, it makes our bad cap situation even worse by adding another big contract to a position where we don’t need it.

It’s the same as offering J.T. Miller for Philly’s 2024 1st. Miller would immediately step in as Philly’s 1C and be an improvement at the position. However, you don’t just look at the improvement as there are many other factors to consider in that deal that would make Philly obviously decline.
26 mai 2023 à 17 h 36
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Sure, Konecny would be one of our best wingers. However, just because a player is an improvement doesn’t mean it makes sense to trade for him. We are fine at winger, investing more money just to create a bigger logjam doesn’t make sense. Not only does this deal strengthen our strongest position, but it also weakens our already weak prospect pool by losing the 11th puck in a stacked draft. On top of that, it makes our bad cap situation even worse by adding another big contract to a position where we don’t need it.

It’s the same as offering J.T. Miller for Philly’s 2024 1st. Miller would immediately step in as Philly’s 1C and be an improvement at the position. However, you don’t just look at the improvement as there are many other factors to consider in that deal that would make Philly obviously decline.


You think W is your strongest position? Having a logjam of meh doesn’t make you strong. As for your Flyers comparison, it’s a false equivalency. Where is the $6 mil cap dump?
26 mai 2023 à 18 h 22
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Quoting: DirtyDangles
I think you are overvaluing him. You aren't going to get the type of return Debrincat did coming off what would have been b2b 40 goal seasons.


His asks are always delusional.
26 mai 2023 à 18 h 38
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A small winger is just about the very last thing the Canucks need. They need picks, prospects, young center men, young defensemen. Konecny is not a fit for Vancouver
 
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