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10 different Alex DeBrincat trades that would allow Ottawa to save face

Créé par: sensonfire
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2023
Publié: 26 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
None of these 10 trades have to be made.


None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat.


Please read this description before commenting.
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
#17 overall in 2023 + Top 10 Protected first in 2024 from Boston
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
2.
OTT
DET
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
3.
OTT
  1. Levi, Devon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
#13 overall in 2023 + Buffalo's choice of either Devon Levi, JJ Peterka or Jack Quinn.
BUF
4.
OTT
BUF
  1. Levi, Devon
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BUF)
5.
OTT
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
#8 overall in 2023 + Hendrix Lapierre
WSH
6.
OTT
WSH
  1. Lapierre, Hendrix
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WSH)
7.
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
#14 overall in 2023 + two seconds
PIT
8.
OTT
PIT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
9.
OTT
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
JG Pageau + lottery protected first for 2024
NYI
10.
OTT
NYI
  1. Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NYI)
11.
OTT
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Alexander Holtz + conditional first for 2024


The condition would be if New Jersey reaches the 2024 ECF, Ottawa would receive a first for 2025 instead.
NJD
12.
OTT
NJD
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
13.
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Lottery protected first for 2024 + Carolina's two seconds for 2024
CAR
14.
OTT
CAR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
15.
OTT
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
Détails additionnels:
#15 overall in 2023 + Top 10 Protected first in 2025 from Tampa
NSH
16.
OTT
NSH
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
17.
OTT
  1. Wright, Shane
Détails additionnels:
Alex DeBrincat for Shane Wright straight up
SEA
18.
19.
OTT
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew
  2. Vladar, Daniel
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Détails additionnels:
#16 overall in 2023 + Andrew Mangiapane + Calgary's choice of either Dillon Dube or Daniel Vladar
CGY
20.
OTT
CGY
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew
  2. Vladar, Daniel
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1183 500 000 $66 424 047 $0 $1 850 000 $17 075 953 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2

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26 mai 2023 à 13 h 48
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Quoting: buffbry
Looks like you shouldn't make threads like this again since those 3 sentences mean nothing


Looks like I will make threads like this again since your trolling means even less.
26 mai 2023 à 13 h 48
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Looks like somebody didn't read the description.


Looks like somebody shouldn't have hit the post button if he didn't want people commenting on the values of the trades proposed.
26 mai 2023 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: sensonfire
Looks like I will make threads like this again since your trolling means even less.


Didn't troll you at all, your proposals stink
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26 mai 2023 à 13 h 51
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Quoting: sensonfire
When did I say the description should affect the feedback I get in this ACGM ?

This part: "Please read this description before commenting."

heavily implies that:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."
... are to be used as pointers through which the users' comments pertaining to this AGM should be considered.
What your description fails to do is to inform anyone commenting on your AGM how the shape of discussion should differ from any other AGM posted on the forum.

Stop gaslighting us and try to clarify what you actually meant by:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."
26 mai 2023 à 13 h 57
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Quoting: sensonfire
Looks like a few people here can't read a very brief description of only 3 sentences.


Looks like someone made a poor ACGM and doesn't like the fact that he was rebuffed (description was read, but that trade would not allow Ottawa to save face because the Pens wouldn't agree to it).
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26 mai 2023 à 13 h 58
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Looks like somebody shouldn't have hit the post button if he didn't want people commenting on the values of the trades proposed.


I invite such comments.

The issue is some people like yourself are unable to read a 3 sentence description before commenting.

It is what it is.
26 mai 2023 à 13 h 59
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I invite such comments.

The issue is some people like yourself are unable to read a 3 sentence description before commenting.

It is what it is.


Why do you keep acting like those sentences mean something? You proposed trade values from multiple teams for debrincat and fans made comments on those values. That's the point of posting on this site.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 1
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Didn't troll you at all, your proposals stink


That's exactly what a troll would say.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 9
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This part: "Please read this description before commenting."

heavily implies that:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."
... are to be used as pointers through which the users' comments pertaining to this AGM should be considered.
What your description fails to do is to inform anyone commenting on your AGM how the shape of discussion should differ from any other AGM posted on the forum.

Stop gaslighting us and try to clarify what you actually meant by:
"None of these 10 trades have to be made."
"None of these 10 teams have to trade for DeBrincat."


But the description is not telling anybody to comment any differently.

Or that this AGM should be treated any differently from others.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: sensonfire
But the description is not telling anybody to comment any differently.

Or that this AGM should be treated any differently from others.

No of course, you're right.

Everyone commenting on here clearly and very needlessly misunderstood this fine example of AGM.

Wishing you a wonderful Friday.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 13
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Looks like someone made a poor ACGM and doesn't like the fact that he was rebuffed (description was read, but that trade would not allow Ottawa to save face because the Pens wouldn't agree to it).


Looks like I made a good ACGM with at least two possible trade scenarios for DeBrincat and that my ACGM was not entirely rebuffed.

You only read the description when I had to point it out to you in the thread.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 20
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Why do you keep acting like those sentences mean something? You proposed trade values from multiple teams for debrincat and fans made comments on those values. That's the point of posting on this site.


Because they do mean something.

And like I said, I invite such comments.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 21
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No of course, you're right.

Everyone commenting on here clearly and very needlessly misunderstood this fine example of AGM.

Wishing you a wonderful Friday.


Same to you awesome face
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 27
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I can definitely see 24 1st and Lapierre plus a second or something for Cat. I don't see the caps giving up 8OA unless for Keller
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: sensonfire
That's exactly what a troll would say.


Change your name to sensonice
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 31
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Yeah Wings ain't do that.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 32
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Change your name to sensonice


I actually kind of like that name.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 33
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Yeah Wings ain't do that.


Please read the description again and thanks for stopping by.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 36
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Please read the description again and thanks for stopping by.


Ok? Why make a proposal at all if you don't want to know whether it's a realistic offer or not? Keep it in your drafts if you don't want criticism.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 37
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Please read the description again and thanks for stopping by.


Also Buffalo wouldn't even give Levi for DeBrincat straight up considering their position.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 40
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Looking at it, the only team (assuming a competent GM) that would probably accept any of these proposals would be NYI.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 45
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Ok? Why make a proposal at all if you don't want to know whether it's a realistic offer or not? Keep it in your drafts if you don't want criticism.


Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
Also Buffalo wouldn't even give Levi for DeBrincat straight up considering their position.


1. I did want to know and at least a couple of these 10 trades are realistic offers, given some of the comments.



2. I didn't feel like keeping it in the drafts.



3. In that case, Buffalo would overrate Levi.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 47
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1. I did want to know and at least a couple of these 10 trades are realistic offers, given some of the comments.



2. I didn't feel like keeping it in the drafts.



3. In that case, Buffalo would overrate Levi.


1. I've seen two comments saying they take this (NYI+WSH), with one of them contested (WSH).

2. Then quit complaining about criticism.

3. Buffalo needs a goalie much more than a LW.
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26 mai 2023 à 14 h 48
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Looking at it, the only team (assuming a competent GM) that would probably accept any of these proposals would be NYI.


Then we'll take the trade with NYI.

All we really need is 1 trade with 1 other team for DeBrincat.

None of the others matter.
26 mai 2023 à 14 h 50
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Then we'll take the trade with NYI.

All we really need is 1 trade with 1 other team for DeBrincat.

None of the others matter.


Ok? So the criticism of others allows you to narrow down what teams takes the offer lol. If you only want to trade with NYI, then create proposal for them and them only. But you didn't, you created one with other teams, and those fans of the other teams gave you their input.
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