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Créé par: RC_burn
Équipe: 2023-24 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 24 mai 2023
Publié: 24 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Assume Murray is bought out which gives the needed cap space. Updated it to put Pacioretty at 3M.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
33 000 000 $
1775 000 $
32 000 000 $
22 750 000 $
1900 000 $
2775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
23 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
OTT
  1. Lankinen, Kevin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
NSH
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [Droits de RFA]
2.
OTT
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
VAN
  1. Thomson, Lassi
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de NSH
Logo de NYR
2024
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de TBL
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
2025
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
Logo de OTT
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $82 487 380 $0 $1 850 000 $1 012 620 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
7 950 000 $7 950 000 $
C
UFA - 7
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 850 000 $$2M)
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Predators de Nashville
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD, AG
RFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
762 500 $762 500 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 2

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24 mai 2023 à 19 h 38
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I'd take that as a Canuck fan
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24 mai 2023 à 19 h 42
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Those are all so bad for ottawa
24 mai 2023 à 19 h 56
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Those are all so bad for ottawa


Feel free to elaborate. My feelings won't be hurt.
24 mai 2023 à 19 h 57
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Gee a late 1st backup goalie and a 3rd for Cat, And in what world would that not be easily beaten. Yzerman would offer far better than that joke of an offer to bring Cat home.
24 mai 2023 à 19 h 57
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Feel free to elaborate. My feelings won't be hurt.


If you trade Cat, should look for a pick around 15 + a B level prospect or 2nd round pick.

I feel like Thomson + 2nd can return someone better. I also don’t want the Sens to spend anymore money on D, need to improve the depth up front.

You also overpaid Pacioretty. He probably gets 2-3 mill on 1 year deal + potential bonuses
24 mai 2023 à 19 h 59
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Feel free to elaborate. My feelings won't be hurt.


A backup goalie, Late 1st and 3rd. You honestly think that's a winning bid should Dorion move DeBrincat? Seeing that Detroit has strong interest in binging Cat home. We'd easily beat that offer by a country mile.
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 0
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I'd take that as a Canuck fan


It's probably an overpayment for Bear. Never really sure how to value trades. I don't think Lassi for Bear straight up is doable, but a 2nd might be too much added. Anyway, it's just a thought. I think Bear could be good on Ottawa's 3rd pair. He shift JBD to the press box, but knowing the D, someone will get hurt within short order and that opens a spot in the lineup.
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 1
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Detroit offers the Islanders 17th overall pick St Louis 42nd overall pick and Cross Hanas.

That's exactly what Csick said a 15th+ 1st round pick a 2nd round pick and B level prospect.
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 2
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I don't think Debrincat is the answer for NSH, but the price is reasonable. OTT should be able to get more than that for him.
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 4
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A backup goalie, Late 1st and 3rd. You honestly think that's a winning bid should Dorion move DeBrincat? Seeing that Detroit has strong interest in binging Cat home. We'd easily beat that offer by a country mile.


Honestly? Maybe not, but I think PD might take a lesser bid to move him out of the division. Also....I have no idea. I'm just making stuff up. I was 1. trying to recoup a 1st. 2. staying out of the Atlantic. 3. Looking for a goalie and I think Lankinen might be one of those late 20s goalies to suddenly come into their stride.
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 5
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It's probably an overpayment for Bear. Never really sure how to value trades. I don't think Lassi for Bear straight up is doable, but a 2nd might be too much added. Anyway, it's just a thought. I think Bear could be good on Ottawa's 3rd pair. He shift JBD to the press box, but knowing the D, someone will get hurt within short order and that opens a spot in the lineup.


I don't know how to value Lassi but I think it would take a 2nd to get Bear as the Canucks need d and seem to like him. That said they also need to move money out and Bear is an RFA who will prob get between 2.5-2.8m
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 10
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If you trade Cat, should look for a pick around 15 + a B level prospect or 2nd round pick.

I feel like Thomson + 2nd can return someone better. I also don’t want the Sens to spend anymore money on D, need to improve the depth up front.

You also overpaid Pacioretty. He probably gets 2-3 mill on 1 year deal + potential bonuses


That's all fair. 1. It's hard to match all those things with a team that can afford him and staying away from teams in the Atlantic, which I think the Sens should do.

2. It's certainly possible and I think JBD would be fine as the 6th D, but I could see PD wanting another more established D and I don't want Hamonic back. Love the guy as a person, but I don't think he's keeping up that well anymore.

3. If Pacioretty would sign for 2-3 mil that would be great and I'd definitely do that. I thought I saw a 5mil projection on The Athletic, but now I'm realizing that maybe I read the wrong line. On my phone, the numbers are too small.
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24 mai 2023 à 20 h 20
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I updated this to put Pacioretty at 3M.
24 mai 2023 à 20 h 40
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Canucks accept. Management likes Bear and he's played well here, but I'd say that's enough of an overpay to convince Van to part with him. We basically turn a 5th into a 2nd plus Thomson.
24 mai 2023 à 21 h 54
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I like both deals.
As a Canucks fan, I’d hope we would make that deal to gain draft capital. At the same time, Bear is a solid bottom pair RHD, who can play top 4 in a pinch.
Problem with Bear (as with many D) when he makes a mistake, it’s glaring.
Anyway, nice job.
 
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