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Schmaltz and Provorov

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Équipe: 2023-24 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2023
Publié: 20 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
1900 000 $
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1900 000 $
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ARI
  1. Alexandrov, Nikita
  2. Scandella, Marco
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
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  1. Bolduc, Zachary
  2. Krug, Torey
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (STL)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)
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20 mai 2023 à 23 h 45
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Would do that for Provy
21 mai 2023 à 2 h 48
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I think you forgot to add the Blues 2023 1st in that Detroit trade.
21 mai 2023 à 3 h 41
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I think you forgot to add the Blues 2023 1st I that Detroit trade.


Ehh what now???

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Would do that for Provy


Of course you would, I don;t blame you. Provy isn't worth a 1st and Bolduc more than Krug by any stretch of the imagination.
21 mai 2023 à 8 h 3
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Saad to Detroit doesn't make sense, look elsewhere.
21 mai 2023 à 8 h 41
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Ehh what now???



Of course you would, I don;t blame you. Provy isn't worth a 1st and Bolduc more than Krug by any stretch of the imagination.


Seemed like my statement was pretty straight forward. I don't dislike Saad but his contract does not have positive value, at least not for Detroit. It's 3 years of a cap dump at 4.5M. Then there is the 2nd coming from Detroit. It would take #10 overall to make us consider that trade and that's being generous.
21 mai 2023 à 9 h 14
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Seemed like my statement was pretty straight forward. I don't dislike Saad but his contract does not have positive value, at least not for Detroit. It's 3 years of a cap dump at 4.5M. Then there is the 2nd coming from Detroit. It would take #10 overall to make us consider that trade and that's being generous.


He's not a cap dump, dude. Good grief.
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21 mai 2023 à 10 h 6
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He's not a cap dump, dude. Good grief.


To Detroit he would be. He would just clog up a roster spot for a young player. No reason for us pay him for 3 more years where he's going to regress each year. Pretty easy to realize that. Not like he's getting traded anyways with his NTC.
21 mai 2023 à 10 h 59
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To Detroit he would be. He would just clog up a roster spot for a young player. No reason for us pay him for 3 more years where he's going to regress each year. Pretty easy to realize that. Not like he's getting traded anyways with his NTC.


Okaaay, fair enough, so then it's not a trade for Detroit (though I fail to see how one can automatically know when he'll regress). "He's not needed here, thanks" is a far cry from give us your lottery pick to take this solid player on a decent contract, and consider it generous.

But you're right, it seems rather unlikely he is traded.
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21 mai 2023 à 18 h 20
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Blues say no to both
21 mai 2023 à 18 h 20
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I think you forgot to add the Blues 2023 1st in that Detroit trade.


Well if that happens Seider and wallander get added
21 mai 2023 à 18 h 27
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Well if that happens Seider and wallander get added


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21 mai 2023 à 18 h 28
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Bro posts the craziest most illogical idea ever then …….. when some posts one back lmao
21 mai 2023 à 22 h 42
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Bro posts the craziest most illogical idea ever then …….. when some posts one back lmao


No dumping Saad in Detroit and getting an be early second back would likely cost the Blues first. I never said it was a good idea for the Blues just what the cost of that trade would be.
21 mai 2023 à 22 h 45
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You can say Saad isn’t a fit in Detroit and have a case. To suggest moving Saad would be dumping a contract isn’t realistic. To go a step further and say it would cost the 10th overall to move Saad is just comic book funny
22 mai 2023 à 0 h 36
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Quoting: Lancebmx
No dumping Saad in Detroit and getting an be early second back would likely cost the Blues first. I never said it was a good idea for the Blues just what the cost of that trade would be.


Dumping Saad?? So you don’t know hockey? Cool cool. Well this is a great place to learn. But you should probably watch a couple games before making posts, at least that’s my advice.
Cause if you have you are so so so so far off in your evaluations of players and contracts here man.
22 mai 2023 à 0 h 56
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Dumping Saad?? So you don’t know hockey? Cool cool. Well this is a great place to learn. But you should probably watch a couple games before making posts, at least that’s my advice.
Cause if you have you are so so so so far off in your evaluations of players and contracts here man.


I know hockey just fine and I like Saad as a player but his age and contract just don't fit in Detroit. 2 years I might be a little more inclined to be alright with adding him to the team but 3 years at 4.5M just doesn't fit with us. It's really that simple, the fit isn't there. To Detroit he would be a dump from St Louis. It's really not that hard to figure out. He might be worth alot to some other team. In this trade for this team maybe another team pays a second for him, if his full no trade clause allows it. If there was a scenario where the Blues wanted to move him and his only acceptable destination was Detroit then it would likely cost something to move him there. Either trade him elsewhere or keep him. Just cause a player has alot of value to one team doesn't mean he has the same or any value to another.
22 mai 2023 à 14 h 36
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Quoting: Lancebmx
I know hockey just fine and I like Saad as a player but his age and contract just don't fit in Detroit. 2 years I might be a little more inclined to be alright with adding him to the team but 3 years at 4.5M just doesn't fit with us. It's really that simple, the fit isn't there. To Detroit he would be a dump from St Louis. It's really not that hard to figure out. He might be worth alot to some other team. In this trade for this team maybe another team pays a second for him, if his full no trade clause allows it. If there was a scenario where the Blues wanted to move him and his only acceptable destination was Detroit then it would likely cost something to move him there. Either trade him elsewhere or keep him. Just cause a player has alot of value to one team doesn't mean he has the same or any value to another.


Sure he may not fit in Detroit but saying he’s a dump worth 10th ovr is crazy
Rn he’s worth a first cause how good his contract is
 
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