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another try at the cup

Créé par: fil97
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 20 mai 2023
Publié: 20 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
31 100 000 $
1900 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 500 000 $
54 000 000 $
32 500 000 $
55 000 000 $
13 000 000 $
42 750 000 $
1800 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
CBJ
  1. Gruden, Jonathan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Rutta, Jan
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
2.
PIT
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Broz, Tristan [Liste de réserve]
  2. Granlund, Mikael
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
3.
PIT
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor (3 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
WPG
  1. DeSmith, Casey
  2. Pickering, Owen
  3. Smith, Ty
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
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Logo de PIT
Logo de ARI
Logo de PIT
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2025
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Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
Logo de PIT
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Logo de PIT
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2283 500 000 $77 052 259 $0 $0 $6 447 741 $

Formation

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Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
900 000 $900 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
3 166 667 $3 166 667 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
800 000 $800 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
825 000 $825 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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20 mai 2023 à 17 h 6
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I don't think Pittsburgh should trade Pickering, but I'll take him
20 mai 2023 à 17 h 9
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Way overpay for Hellebuyck.
Bishop and Kuemper would be good comps. Neither went for more than a single good prospect or 1st round pick. So, a fair trade would be:
2024 1st + DeSmith + 4th for Hellebuyck and retention.
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20 mai 2023 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: Victor24
Way overpay for Hellebuyck.
Bishop and Kuemper would be good comps. Neither went for more than a single good prospect or 1st round pick. So, a fair trade would be:
2024 1st + DeSmith + 4th for Hellebuyck and retention.


Buffalo has pick 13 upl and ostlund on the table. Just a simple deal may be fair the amount of teams that could use him drives up the price. If they can't contend with that offer just but out lol.
20 mai 2023 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: Victor24
Way overpay for Hellebuyck.
Bishop and Kuemper would be good comps. Neither went for more than a single good prospect or 1st round pick. So, a fair trade would be:
2024 1st + DeSmith + 4th for Hellebuyck and retention.


I don’t think Kumper has ever won, nor been nominated for the vezina.

Bishop was nominated once but had never won a vezina trophy when he was traded.

Helle would be the best and most proven goalie traded since Ryan Miller or Patrick Roy. The bidding war for his services as the final piece for a cup win amongst the Pens, Sabres, Devils, Oilers, Kings, Sens, wings will return a 1st plus a blue chip prospect. At a minimum. We can retain and take back a goalie contract as a dump further increasing the return if needed.
20 mai 2023 à 18 h 54
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No to the CBj and Arizona deals. Why give up assets to get rid of Granlund when you can just buy him out and save the assets?
And take out Pickering or the 1st for Helly.
20 mai 2023 à 20 h 9
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Quoting: Howie
Buffalo has pick 13 upl and ostlund on the table. Just a simple deal may be fair the amount of teams that could use him drives up the price. If they can't contend with that offer just but out lol.


Did Buffalo offer those picks? No? You're just speculating?

If Buffalo offered 13 overall and an A prospect, they can have him. That is a massive overpay for a guy with one year left.

If you think Win is going to get 13 overall and an A prospect, there is a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell you.
20 mai 2023 à 20 h 13
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Did Buffalo offer those picks? No? You're just speculating?

If Buffalo offered 13 overall and an A prospect, they can have him. That is a massive overpay for a guy with one year left.

If you think Win is going to get 13 overall and an A prospect, there is a bridge in Alaska I'd like to sell you.


Buffalo agms also have offers basically the same so yeah too bad for Pittsburgh who will not be getting Hellebuyck 😁
20 mai 2023 à 20 h 15
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I don’t think Kumper has ever won, nor been nominated for the vezina.

Bishop was nominated once but had never won a vezina trophy when he was traded.

Helle would be the best and most proven goalie traded since Ryan Miller or Patrick Roy. The bidding war for his services as the final piece for a cup win amongst the Pens, Sabres, Devils, Oilers, Kings, Sens, wings will return a 1st plus a blue chip prospect. At a minimum. We can retain and take back a goalie contract as a dump further increasing the return if needed.


Mark this down. I guarantee Hellebuyck won't return a 1st, A+ prospect, and more.

Any team that would pay that needs to fire their GM IMMEDIATELY
20 mai 2023 à 20 h 16
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Quoting: Howie
Buffalo agms also have offers basically the same so yeah too bad for Pittsburgh who will not be getting Hellebuyck 😁


We'll see brother. We'll see.
20 mai 2023 à 20 h 19
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We'll see brother. We'll see.


We'll see him go for more than this here. We'll definitely see that. 😆
20 mai 2023 à 21 h 50
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Quoting: Victor24
Mark this down. I guarantee Hellebuyck won't return a 1st, A+ prospect, and more.

Any team that would pay that needs to fire their GM IMMEDIATELY


Noted and marked down. Let’s revisit if he’s traded. I don’t think I suggested an “A+” prospect but for clarity what/who do you consider to be an A+ prospect.

To me a blue Chip prospect would be one of the top 3-5 in a teams prospect pool. Someone likely drafted in the top 2 rounds.
21 mai 2023 à 9 h 3
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Noted and marked down. Let’s revisit if he’s traded. I don’t think I suggested an “A+” prospect but for clarity what/who do you consider to be an A+ prospect.

To me a blue Chip prospect would be one of the top 3-5 in a teams prospect pool. Someone likely drafted in the top 2 rounds.


Oh ok. That makes a little more sense (I was thinking a guy taken like top 10). I still think that's high but it is much more in the realm of possibility. I could see an low 1st and a guy drafted in the high 2nds if a team felt there was a lot of competition and wanted to really overpay.

Glad we could clarify.

Also, I hope you're having fun with this, I am. It's all in good humor. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Ron Hextall is hired by Tor and he trades Marner and Matthews for Granlund and Oloffson before trading 3 1sts for Hellebuyck. smile

Anyway, I am very interested to see what Hellebuyck and Saros go for when they're traded and where they go.
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