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Big Winnipeg Trade

Créé par: TMLBRIAN
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 18 mai 2023
Publié: 18 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Matthews extends 12m x 8 years
Nylander extends 8.5m x 8 years

Thoughts on the Winnipeg trade and this team overall?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 750 000 $
33 750 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
2775 000 $
3850 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 000 000 $
42 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 100 000 $
65 500 000 $
34 500 000 $
22 500 000 $
31 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
18th overall
2.
TOR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
to any team for a 3rd
3.
TOR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
CHI
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
4.
TOR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
29th-32nd overall
STL
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 500 000 $83 490 950 $0 $0 $9 050 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 2
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
C
UFA - 8
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
796 667 $796 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
AD, C, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
766 667 $766 667 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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18 mai 2023 à 16 h 55
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why would the leafs do that???

Trade away an elite playmaker for a lst and Dubois, who is mid
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18 mai 2023 à 16 h 57
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Leafs keep Liljegren over the picks. Too much for Mayfield. More of the same, loving bottom enders on other teams but hating the Leaf players....oh well.
Like the Jets trade....except, don't the never ending whiner PLD on my team.
18 mai 2023 à 16 h 57
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How many times do we have to say no before you move on and try trading marner elsewhere? Jets decline
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18 mai 2023 à 16 h 57
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Idk what’s crazier, the idea that the Leafs would pull the trigger on this deal or the assumption that PLD (noted Montreal fan) would ever sign a long-term extension in Toronto.
18 mai 2023 à 16 h 58
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Quoting: Stars4Life
why would the leafs do that???

Trade away an elite playmaker for a lst and Dubious, who is mid


Cap redistribution. They get a very good #2C in Dubois and a 18th overall AND cap space. People keep talking about how the leafs have 4 people making 40m of the cap and how that's a problem. I see the problem actually being 3 guys making over 33m in cap. Marner will be the better player in any trade involving him. But they get a very good piece in Dubois, a good pick and a lot of cap.

Marner is a 100pt player who just got nominated for the Selke, I know how good he is. But no team has won with 1 guy making over 10m a year. Leafs have 3. They need to spread his cap around.
18 mai 2023 à 16 h 58
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WPG doesn't want MARNER and that Franchise killing contract. Can the LAFFS fans get together and talk about this???

Please stop pitching Marner on the Jets unless he's part of a package and must take Scheifele and Wheeler.
18 mai 2023 à 16 h 59
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Quoting: Howie
How many times do we have to say no before you move on and try trading marner elsewhere? Jets decline


This is my first Marner to Winnipeg trade. I have made agms trading him many places, I just wanted to give this a try.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 1
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This is my first Marner to Winnipeg trade. I have made agms trading him many places, I just wanted to give this a try.


I don't mean you specifically sorry. I mean the concept of marner to the jets. It's quite annoying and neither team wants to do a trade there.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 4
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Quoting: Howie
I don't mean you specifically sorry. I mean the concept of marner to the jets. It's quite annoying and neither team wants to do a trade there.


Both teams are expected to make at least one big trade this offseason. They are both in a position of change. So they will be linked together from time to time. It is better to just go with it than to get angry when it happens.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 8
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The Jets aren't adding a first to Dubois for 2 years of Marner. With his contract, Marner simply isn't with that much.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
Both teams are expected to make at least one big trade this offseason. They are both in a position of change. So they will be linked together from time to time. It is better to just go with it than to get angry when it happens.


Marner just doesn't make sense for the jets whatsoever. They don't tend to spend that much on 1 player and likely wouldn't have the cap for it unless wheeler is gone. Jets are likely retooling so why trade a 1st and a player that's worth a 1st plus for a guy that can't be traded and leaves in 2 years. Like I wouldn't trade pick 18 for him. He just isn't a fit whatsoever and thus would be a trash offer like wheeler and heinola for marner which I know isn't a deal toronto would do so there's no trade to be had with marner.
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18 mai 2023 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: Windjammer
The Jets aren't adding a first to Dubois for 2 years of Marner. With his contract, Marner simply isn't with that much.


Take the blinders off… this is an unbelievably bad take
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 26
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Take the blinders off… this is an unbelievably bad take


I certainly understand how desperate Leaf fans are to dump his Marner's contract. It was an albatross the day he signed it and is getting worse. He's never been worth anywhere closeto what he's being paid.

You just have to understand that no one owes the Leafs anything or are obligated to help them fix their cap mismanagement. Dumbas got you guys into this predicament and there's no easy way out.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 30
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Quoting: Windjammer
I certainly understand how desperate Leaf fans are to dump his Marner's contract. It was an albatross the day he signed it and is getting worse. He's never been worth anywhere closeto what he's being paid.

You just have to understand that no one owes the Leafs anything or are obligated to help them fix their cap mismanagement. Dumbas got you guys into this predicament and there's no easy way out.


Marner dropped 99 pts this year AND is nominated for the selke (best defensive forward). Teams will pay for this contract easily. They will pay a lot actually. BUT I do agree a 9.5m x 8 year contract would have been perfect for him and for the team when he signed his 11m contract.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 33
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Marner dropped 99 pts this year AND is nominated for the selke (best defensive forward). Teams will pay for this contract easily. They will pay a lot actually. BUT I do agree a 9.5m x 8 year contract would have been perfect for him and for the team when he signed his 11m contract.


Cool. Hang into him then because no one is paying the ludicrous amounts Leaf fans want for that contract.

We'll see how many teams would be willing to take on that contract. My guess is none that Marner would be willing to go to.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 38
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Cool. Hang into him then because no one is paying the ludicrous amounts Leaf fans want for that contract.

We'll see how many teams would be willing to take on that contract. My guess is none that Marner would be willing to go to.


Marner's no movement clause only kicks in July 1st. He can be traded ANYWHERE before then.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 39
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Marner's no movement clause only kicks in July 1st. He can be traded ANYWHERE before then.


Yeah, I'm just figuring he won't be traded by then.
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 41
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Quoting: Windjammer
I certainly understand how desperate Leaf fans are to dump his Marner's contract. It was an albatross the day he signed it and is getting worse. He's never been worth anywhere closeto what he's being paid.

You just have to understand that no one owes the Leafs anything or are obligated to help them fix their cap mismanagement. Dumbas got you guys into this predicament and there's no easy way out.


Lmao and Leafs fans are bias
18 mai 2023 à 17 h 41
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Yeah, I'm just figuring he won't be traded by then.


Time will tell! A lot is up in the air in Leaf land right now.
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18 mai 2023 à 21 h 26
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Doubt the blues do that atm
 
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