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11OA

Créé par: newman23
Équipe: 2023-24 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 17 mai 2023
Publié: 17 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
32 500 000 $
11 800 000 $
21 000 000 $
39 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
35 000 000 $
12 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Bedard, Connor
3925 000 $
Transactions
CHI
  1. Boeser, Brock
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TBL)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais appliqués
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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Logo de VAN
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Logo de NYR
Logo de CHI
Logo de DAL
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
2024
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Logo de TBL
Logo de CHI
Logo de VAN
Logo de CHI
Logo de OTT
Logo de CGY
Logo de CHI
Logo de CHI
2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $74 517 623 $0 $505 000 $7 982 377 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Bedard, Connor
925 000 $925 000 $
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance505 000 $$505K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
758 333 $758 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
950 000 $950 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
962 500 $962 500 $
G
RFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
758 333 $758 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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17 mai 2023 à 14 h 59
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11OA will cost you 19OA, 35OA, plus another piece like Murphy
17 mai 2023 à 14 h 59
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Vancouver fans won't think so, but this is pretty fair.
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17 mai 2023 à 15 h 0
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Personally I don't like it for VAN. There should be a very good prospect available in that 11th spot.
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17 mai 2023 à 15 h 1
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Nucks aren't trading down with Chiraq.
17 mai 2023 à 15 h 3
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Quoting: TheAlien
11OA will cost you 19OA, 35OA, plus another piece like Murphy


depends how you value boeser, but any draft pick value chart you can find will tell you 19+35>11
17 mai 2023 à 15 h 4
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boeser, contrary to what you believe is not a cap dump, it is different than a cap casualty. A cap dump is a bad player that you pay to get off, a cap casualty is a player who you trade for less than his value due to cap constraints. Boeser is a 6M player being paid 6.65M, he is a cap casualty if you want him you will still have to pay, and that price will be around the value of a 2nd. And moving up from 19th to 11th is more than just a 2nd round pick. If you want 11OA and boeser (to play with CB98) it will cost you a pair of 1sts and a 2nd, both TBL picks and your 2nd this year. That is steep, but thats the ask in this draft
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17 mai 2023 à 15 h 12
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Vancouver fans need to realize that they need to get rid of cap and there aren't a lot of teams willing to take on cap space. Unfortunately there players aren't going to be worth as much as they think. It is just the cost of doing business in the current NHL with not much growth in the salary cap yet.
17 mai 2023 à 15 h 20
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That trade down is fair but I don't think Vancouver would want to move down with the quality of prospects that will be there at 11
17 mai 2023 à 15 h 29
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boeser, contrary to what you believe is not a cap dump, it is different than a cap casualty. A cap dump is a bad player that you pay to get off, a cap casualty is a player who you trade for less than his value due to cap constraints. Boeser is a 6M player being paid 6.65M, he is a cap casualty if you want him you will still have to pay, and that price will be around the value of a 2nd. And moving up from 19th to 11th is more than just a 2nd round pick. If you want 11OA and boeser (to play with CB98) it will cost you a pair of 1sts and a 2nd, both TBL picks and your 2nd this year. That is steep, but thats the ask in this draft


2 firsts is looney toons but maybe the sens pick is switched with 35OA to account for the depth of this draft class.
17 mai 2023 à 15 h 40
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Boeser is not a dump in that he can actually play and is worth something remotely resembling his contract. But he is overpaid at least some and a cap "casualty" generally is not a get out jail free card and usually means a little indigestion. There probably is very little appetite for a 6.6 million 50-55 point winger around the league.

Here is a counter proposal (that Nuck fans probably will like less): #11OA, Boeser, & Future considerations (which is Myers after his bonus getting paid) for #35OA, #56OA, & #67OA. Using the Atlantic value chart for picks, this is basically moving Myers and Boeser with the Nashvile 3rd (#68OA). If there would be any interest in a RFA dman, Caleb Jones (LHD) or Mithcell (RHD) could be added as I think the Hawks are better off ripping the bandaid off and just taking lumps with kids in their spots (losing a couple games you might otherwise not while giving kids a chance to develop in the NHL is win win for the Hawks).
17 mai 2023 à 18 h 10
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Quoting: Jeep71589
Vancouver fans need to realize that they need to get rid of cap and there aren't a lot of teams willing to take on cap space. Unfortunately there players aren't going to be worth as much as they think. It is just the cost of doing business in the current NHL with not much growth in the salary cap yet.


They can move Myers for cheap after his bonus
17 mai 2023 à 18 h 12
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Quoting: wojohawk
Boeser is not a dump in that he can actually play and is worth something remotely resembling his contract. But he is overpaid at least some and a cap "casualty" generally is not a get out jail free card and usually means a little indigestion. There probably is very little appetite for a 6.6 million 50-55 point winger around the league.

Here is a counter proposal (that Nuck fans probably will like less): #11OA, Boeser, & Future considerations (which is Myers after his bonus getting paid) for #35OA, #56OA, & #67OA. Using the Atlantic value chart for picks, this is basically moving Myers and Boeser with the Nashvile 3rd (#68OA). If there would be any interest in a RFA dman, Caleb Jones (LHD) or Mithcell (RHD) could be added as I think the Hawks are better off ripping the bandaid off and just taking lumps with kids in their spots (losing a couple games you might otherwise not while giving kids a chance to develop in the NHL is win win for the Hawks).


Then VAN would just ship out a third if it's "equivalent." Boeser also plays at a 60 point pace (albeit not a major difference)
19 mai 2023 à 14 h 16
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2 firsts is looney toons but maybe the sens pick is switched with 35OA to account for the depth of this draft class.


ah but it is 2 late 1sts, it is not a linear progression when you get to the top of the draft, its exponential
 
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