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Créé par: Wingsfannn

Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit

Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2023

Publié: 14 mai 2023

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Pacioretty given recent injuries likely won’t get big money or longterm. Yzerman offers him same salary and takes the risk hoping if he can stay healthy he might fetch a big return at the deadline

For wings fans thinking playoffs I realistically believe we’re 2 years away. East is too strong. We’ll be better off when edvinsson and kasper etc... get some nhl experience

Yzerman overpays reaves for one year to provide protection for the kids and due to fabbri’s history of injuries he’ll likely end up missing games and reaves should likely still be in line to play significant amount of games

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
McIsaac, Jared	1	800 000 $
Veleno, Joseph	3	1 400 000 $
Lindström, Gustav	1	850 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Pysyk, Mark	1	850 000 $
Pacioretty, Max	1	7 000 000 $
Nosek, Tomas	2	1 800 000 $
Reaves, Ryan	1	2 500 000 $

CRÉÉ	ANS	CAP HIT
Wood, Matthew	3	925 000 $
Moore, Oliver	3	925 000 $
Musty, Quentin	3	925 000 $
But, Daniil	3	925 000 $

Transactions

DET

Murray, Matt
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)

TOR

Lindström, Gustav

DET

Myers, Tyler
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (VAN)

Détails additionnels:

Canucks get rid of myers cap hit by dropping 6 spots

VAN

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYI)

Détails additionnels:

Wings move up the draft by taking on myers for a season

DET

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (WPG)

WPG

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (BOS)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (DET)

DET

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

After pick 27 avs next pick will be 155 so they make the move

COL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (DET)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (STL)

Détails additionnels:

Yzerman get aggressive and gets the wings 4th 1st round selection and try’s to speed up the rebuild

DET

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)

Détails additionnels:

Blues decide to fall back 3 spots(actually 2 since they have the 26th spot) and add a young player in veleno and get back to back picks

STL

Veleno, Joseph
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

Wings decide to move up 3 spots to make sure they get who they want and move on from veleno. With all the forward prospects coming up in the system there isn’t likely to be any room for him on the top 9 and he’d likely decide for a trade to another team with a bigger opportunity in the near future

Rachats de contrats

Justin Abdelkader: 1 055 556 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Jakub Vrána: 2 625 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
27	8 250 000 $	79 578 889 $	0 $	4 200 000 $	-71 328 889 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Pacioretty, Max 7 000 000 $7 000 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NTC UFA - 8	Raymond, Lucas 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) AD, AG RFA - 1
Rasmussen, Michael 1 460 000 $1 460 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Copp, Andrew 5 625 000 $5 625 000 $ C, AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4	Perron, David 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 1
Zadina, Filip 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1	Kasper, Marco 918 333 $918 333 $ C RFA - 4	Berggren, Jonatan 925 000 $925 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Nosek, Tomas 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, C UFA - 1	Kubalik, Dominik 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
		Reaves, Ryan 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD UFA - 3
		Moore, Oliver 925 000 $925 000 $
		Wood, Matthew 925 000 $925 000 $
		Musty, Quentin 925 000 $925 000 $
		But, Daniil 925 000 $925 000 $

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Määttä, Olli 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Seider, Moritz 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 2
Walman, Jake 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Chiarot, Ben 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G M-NTC UFA - 1
Edvinsson, Simon 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG RFA - 3	Myers, Tyler 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
McIsaac, Jared 800 000 $800 000 $ DG RFA - 1	Pysyk, Mark 850 000 $850 000 $ DD UFA - 1

14 mai 2023 à 10 h 36

mokumboi

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Hmm. You do know that Colorado's 1st is going to be higher than Dallas' 1st, right? Perhaps even 7-8 slots higher. The Avs will pick at #23.

xercuses a aimé ceci.

14 mai 2023 à 10 h 41

tonyhzs

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I love the Vancouver trade. It's fair and makes sense. Not sure if Vancouver wants to pursue this, or if they can stomach the last year of Myers.

The Winnipeg and Colorado trades are bad for everyone. Picks after 20 are about as good as picksin the 40s. No need to move up.

14 mai 2023 à 10 h 43

xercuses

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Quoting: mokumboi

Hmm. You do know that Colorado's 1st is going to be higher than Dallas' 1st, right? Perhaps even 7-8 slots higher. The Avs will pick at #23.

Lol o thought something was off
blues take it lol

14 mai 2023 à 10 h 47

mokumboi

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Picks after 20 are about as good as picksin the 40s.

Ehhh what?? Where does one even get this sort of idea?

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14 mai 2023 à 10 h 50

BrownieSTL

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Quoting: xercuses

Lol o thought something was off
blues take it lol

No they actually have this correct the Colorado pick will actually be later. They don’t reorder picks until the 2nd round is over and division champs that get eliminated get the later picks so Colorado guaranteed to get one of those later picks (around 27 range) meanwhile the Toronto pick the Blues got two days ago officially will be either 24 or 25. The Dallas pick would be either 23 or 24 if they lose Monday but would fall all the way to 29 at best if Dallas wins.

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14 mai 2023 à 10 h 54

JoeROFLCOPTER

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We'd need to add for that VAN trade. It's only one year left and realistically they shouldn't be trying to be buyers at the TDL.

14 mai 2023 à 10 h 55

JoeROFLCOPTER

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Quoting: xercuses

Lol o thought something was off
blues take it lol

Red Wings definitely accept. Joe Veleno; huge cap dump.

14 mai 2023 à 11 h 7

mokumboi

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Quoting: BrownieSTL

Holy crap, I legit did not even notice the Avs rallied to edge the division. Some of us stopped looking at the top of the standings in March to watch the bottom of the standings.

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14 mai 2023 à 11 h 11

Lancebmx

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Besides maybe Colorado I don't see why any team would do those. Unless Dallas beats Seattle then the Blues accept.

14 mai 2023 à 11 h 46

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Warpbox

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Quoting: tonyhzs

It's not good for VAN at all

14 mai 2023 à 12 h 50

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Epic_Ninja_Dude

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Quoting: tonyhzs

If this is what it costs to get rid of Myers, then Vancouver will just stomach the last year of the deal. He can probably return a pick at the deadline 50% retained. If the Canucks do want to move Myers, they’d target a deal using a mid to late round pick to get rid of him (most likely 3rd/4th).

14 mai 2023 à 12 h 56

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Juiceman

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I don’t see why the Canucks would drop 6 spots to shed 1 year of angers. It’s literally just 1 year. Canucks don’t need short term cap space that bad. There really isn’t any benefit of having an extra year of cap space

14 mai 2023 à 13 h 12

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JGFromTheD

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The Wings center pipeline is not the same as the wing pipeline. They have very few centers in the pipeline, so trading Veleno just to sign an older version of him for more money doesn't make sense to me.

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 25

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Quoting: mokumboi

Holy crap, I legit did not even notice the Avs rallied to edge the division. Some of us stopped looking at the top of the standings in March to watch the bottom of the standings.

Dude this makes me wonder now when you give everyone crap on their mock drafts if you have even watched anybody play. If you didn’t even watch enough hockey to know who won your own division, or notice that the Avs faced off against wild card 1 Seattle…

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 41

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: mokumboi

Hmm. You do know that Colorado's 1st is going to be higher than Dallas' 1st, right? Perhaps even 7-8 slots higher. The Avs will pick at #23.

Actually didn’t lol just checked 2023 draft on capfriendly and saw you listed at 27 I’ll recheck

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 43

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: tonyhzs

Bad why? All depends if theres someone you like there and think you won’t be able to get them 10 spots back. If we ended up having 0 2nds and 3 1sts and some where we moved up I’d be happy. We should be done playing it safe and I hope yzerman is aggressive . My #1 play wouldnbe michkov if he drops to 6 or 7 but I doubt it happens

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 46

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

We'd need to add for that VAN trade. It's only one year left and realistically they shouldn't be trying to be buyers at the TDL.

Why add? They been desperate to get rid of myers for years and all I hear is how are the canucks going to shed salary this summer. I’d much rather just give up a 2nd at that point to move up and not take on myers. Why would we ever do both

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 46

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mokumboi

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Quoting: pavelisgoat

Riiiiight, because humans never happen to miss something and if they do miss one thing that automatically means they never notice anything. They edged it on the last day, and no, I did not pay any attention to the top of the division standings or how the playoff slots finished up. I was preoccupied with the bottom of the overall standings and checking on draft prospects/Blues draftees in juniors.

And if fair, educated, logical critique qualifies as "giving everyone crap" then what category does this post of yours slot into? "Cogent, dispassionate analysis"?

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 47

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mokumboi

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Quoting: Wingsfannn

Actually didn’t lol just checked 2023 draft on capfriendly and saw you listed at 27 I’ll recheck

Long story short: If Dallas wins game 7 against Seattle, Colorado will have the higher pick. If Seattle wins, Dallas will have the higher pick. My earlier comment was potentially erroneous.

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14 mai 2023 à 14 h 53

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: JGFromTheD

He’s going to be a 4c on this team. No one will miss him

14 mai 2023 à 14 h 54

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pavelisgoat

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Quoting: mokumboi

Alright pal, just checkinggg. Wasn’t meant to come across as personal as maybe it did. Just had taken your word for a lot in mock draft comments but also realize a lot of people on this site don’t watch the amount of hockey they act like they do. Fair game if you’ve turned your attention to scouting, I’ll keep taking your word there

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14 mai 2023 à 14 h 56

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Wingsfannn

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Quoting: mokumboi

Long story short: If Dallas wins game 7 against Seattle, Colorado will have the higher pick. If Seattle wins, Dallas will have the higher pick. My earlier comment was potentially erroneous.

All good 😂 so either way your guaranteed 26th no? If seattle wins they move into final 4 and you fall back one spot. Same the other scenario

14 mai 2023 à 15 h 0

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mokumboi

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Quoting: pavelisgoat

No worries. Just a little banter. But yeah, last time I remember looking the Avs were like eight points back chasing Dallas and Minnesota. I did not realize they won seven of their last eight to nip it on the final day. No clue. I should have figured it out when Dallas and Minnesota matched up in the 1st round, but I simply didn;t think about it. I was busy watching the Blues' lottery odds annoyingly dwindle over the last few weeks.

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14 mai 2023 à 15 h 2

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pavelisgoat

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Quoting: mokumboi

Yeah I was glad to see the Blues play some good hockey down the stretch and jump past the wings

14 mai 2023 à 15 h 18

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mokumboi

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Quoting: pavelisgoat

Yeah I was glad to see the Blues play some good hockey down the stretch and jump past the wings

I'm sure Washington was, as well.

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