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Move on from Matthews

Créé par: kous
Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 mai 2023
Publié: 11 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
44 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
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TOR
  1. Byfield, Quinton
  2. Clarke, Brandt
  3. Fiala, Kevin
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Matthews, Auston
Détails additionnels:
Matthews signs 8 year extension
2.
TOR
LAK
  1. Murray, Matt
Détails additionnels:
Moved to any team
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11 mai 2023 à 15 h 43
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I wouldn't trade that haul for Connor McDavid.
11 mai 2023 à 15 h 45
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Toews and O'Reilly have similar play styles and roles. Wouldn't make sense to have both of them.
11 mai 2023 à 15 h 45
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laugh Rob Blake laugh and passes, If Auston Matthews wants to go home to Southern California. Blake can sign him for free on July 1st 2024.
11 mai 2023 à 15 h 47
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Imagine trading Matthews and making ROR your 1C. 🤔
11 mai 2023 à 15 h 49
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You've disrespected those UFAs by thinking they will sign for so little. Fiala isn't waiving his NMC to replace Matthews. Kings don't do the trade either, they can wait for Matthews
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11 mai 2023 à 15 h 49
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That is a lot for a rental, if Matthews wants to sign an extension in LA we'll just get him next year when Kopitars contract is done.
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11 mai 2023 à 16 h 13
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That is a lot for a rental, if Matthews wants to sign an extension in LA we'll just get him next year when Kopitars contract is done.


Its not a rental as part of the trade he signs a 8 year extension. If LA does not make the move they risk him being traded to another team.
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 15
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You've disrespected those UFAs by thinking they will sign for so little. Fiala isn't waiving his NMC to replace Matthews. Kings don't do the trade either, they can wait for Matthews


Because you know Fialas motivation? Not if he is moved and extended to another team. or even just extended by the Leafs
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 17
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I wouldn't trade that haul for Connor McDavid.


The Price for Matthews would be high.
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 18
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Toews and O'Reilly have similar play styles and roles. Wouldn't make sense to have both of them.


Bringing in Toews as your 4th line center does not hurt and they still have Almost $8M to spend on other players or trades
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 19
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The Price for Matthews would be high.


Not as high as Connor McDavid.

There's not a single player in the league that I would trade all 4 of those assets for.
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 23
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Not as high as Connor McDavid.

There's not a single player in the league that I would trade all 4 of those assets for.


I would agree McDavid would be higher but History shows what the value of AM34 would be on the market and I don't think its that far off what I listed

Everyone on this board is much smarter than most NHL GMs
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 39
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I would agree McDavid would be higher but History shows what the value of AM34 would be on the market and I don't think its that far off what I listed

Everyone on this board is much smarter than most NHL GMs


I'd challenge you to show me a player over the age of 25 that was traded for a haul anywhere close to what you have here.
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 47
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Because you know Fialas motivation? Not if he is moved and extended to another team. or even just extended by the Leafs


Extended by the Leafs?? He has a full six years left on his current NMC contract. I don't know Fiala's motivation, but you don't even know his contract.
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 47
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I'd challenge you to show me a player over the age of 25 that was traded for a haul anywhere close to what you have here.


Erik Karlson
Ryan O`Reilly
Matthew Tkachuk (was 24)

What do you think AM34 is worth?
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 50
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Extended by the Leafs?? He has a full six years left on his current NMC contract. I don't know Fiala's motivation, but you don't even know his contract.


The Extension part was about AM34 being extended by the Leafs. IF he was available this summer LA would need to make an offer if they wanted him as any deal would most likely include an extension and would be gone to another team
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 53
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Extended by the Leafs?? He has a full six years left on his current NMC contract. I don't know Fiala's motivation, but you don't even know his contract.


and since you don't know what Fiala would do your comment about what he is willing to do is irrelevant.
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and since you don't know what Fiala would do your comment about what he is willing to do is irrelevant.


Much like your post
11 mai 2023 à 16 h 57
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Its not a rental as part of the trade he signs a 8 year extension. If LA does not make the move they risk him being traded to another team.


Trade him, he'll be a rental and go to the highest bidder which he was already going to do anyways. The Kings would rather keep that future than leverage everything to be another top-heavy team.
11 mai 2023 à 17 h 19
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Erik Karlson
Ryan O`Reilly
Matthew Tkachuk (was 24)

What do you think AM34 is worth?


Erik Karlsson: The first round pick is there, but which of the prospects that were traded are equivalent to either of Byfield or Clarke? And where is San Jose's single best PPG player going back the other way?

Ryan O'Reilly: Again, the first is there even though in this case it was essentially a 2nd (#31 overall). Tage Thompson worked out great for Buffalo in hindsight, but at the time there was no indication that he was going to be a superstar. Sobotka and Bergland were both dumps. O'Reilly was also locked up long-term to a very team friendly contract, which is absolutely not the case with Matthews.

Matthew Tkachuk: Huberdeau and Weegar are both great players, but both only had 1-year remaining on their contracts and Florida probably couldn't afford to re-sign them anyway.

So if we're using any of those trades as comparables, then at best you get the 1st round pick and only one of the three other assets you have listed here, along with two lesser pieces like Spence and ****emo.

However, i still contend that the Kings will just pass on the trade and try to sign him in free agency. If he wants to sign in LA, he will. If he doesn't he won't. He'll have his pick of team and contract, and there's no reason why he'd let Toronto pick where he's going to play the rest of his career just because that team is willing to give up the best haul.
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11 mai 2023 à 19 h 18
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Erik Karlsson: The first round pick is there, but which of the prospects that were traded are equivalent to either of Byfield or Clarke? And where is San Jose's single best PPG player going back the other way?

Ryan O'Reilly: Again, the first is there even though in this case it was essentially a 2nd (#31 overall). Tage Thompson worked out great for Buffalo in hindsight, but at the time there was no indication that he was going to be a superstar. Sobotka and Bergland were both dumps. O'Reilly was also locked up long-term to a very team friendly contract, which is absolutely not the case with Matthews.

Matthew Tkachuk: Huberdeau and Weegar are both great players, but both only had 1-year remaining on their contracts and Florida probably couldn't afford to re-sign them anyway.

So if we're using any of those trades as comparables, then at best you get the 1st round pick and only one of the three other assets you have listed here, along with two lesser pieces like Spence and ****emo.

However, i still contend that the Kings will just pass on the trade and try to sign him in free agency. If he wants to sign in LA, he will. If he doesn't he won't. He'll have his pick of team and contract, and there's no reason why he'd let Toronto pick where he's going to play the rest of his career just because that team is willing to give up the best haul.

Exactly this.

TML fans have got to lower their expectations of how a Mathews trade will look.

If he gets traded it’s 99% a pure rental situation. No team is giving them anywhere near this trade.
11 mai 2023 à 19 h 52
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Its not a rental as part of the trade he signs a 8 year extension. If LA does not make the move they risk him being traded to another team.


He is going to sign for 8 years but it will be in TO.
 
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