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Goalie Swap

Créé par: TheLand
Publié: 24 avr. 2023 à 12 h 11
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 42/185 (23%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Ducks d'AnaheimDucks d'Anaheim

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gibson, JohnDucks d'AnaheimLNH-1 452 973 $011-------0.040.001
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---010------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Wild du MinnesotaMIN)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Demko, ThatcherCanucks de VancouverLNH-1 135 135 $011-------0.030.001
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial13 805 563 $25506631212
Variation317 838 $0000-20
Final14 123 401 $ (↑)255066310 (↓)12000

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Demko, ThatcherCanucks de VancouverLNH-5 000 000 $011-------0.030.001
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gibson, JohnDucks d'AnaheimLNH-6 400 000 $011-------0.040.001
Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Bruins de BostonBOS)---010------
Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (Logo de Wild du MinnesotaMIN)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 879 583 $2447663513
Variation-1 400 000 $000020
Final479 583 $ (↓)24476637 (↑)13000
24 avr. 2023 à 12 h 12
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Demko had a better year so more value than Gibson
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24 avr. 2023 à 12 h 47
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I think ANA jumps at this.........I'm not so sure VAN does......
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24 avr. 2023 à 13 h 21
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Quoting: Dutchies
I think ANA jumps at this.........I'm not so sure VAN does......


Without the 2nd maybe but if we are trading Gibby it’s because Dostal is ready to roll as our new starter which makes this more complicated imo
24 avr. 2023 à 16 h 27
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Vancouver has no reason to trade Demko for an older goalie who makes 1.5 million a year more.
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24 avr. 2023 à 16 h 41
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Canucks decline, you'd have to add a lot more than that. Or do the Canucks a monsterous favor by taking on OEL for free essentially.
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24 avr. 2023 à 17 h 35
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Without the 2nd maybe but if we are trading Gibby it’s because Dostal is ready to roll as our new starter which makes this more complicated imo


Younger upgrade on shorter term for cheaper. Gives Dostal a guy to tutor under for the first 2 years, and it will be easier to trade him than Gibson.
24 avr. 2023 à 23 h 37
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Without the 2nd maybe but if we are trading Gibby it’s because Dostal is ready to roll as our new starter which makes this more complicated imo


give us 2 firsts and we'll still decline
25 avr. 2023 à 0 h 11
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VAN Declines, include your 2023 1dt and they might listen
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25 avr. 2023 à 10 h 16
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Without the 2nd maybe but if we are trading Gibby it’s because Dostal is ready to roll as our new starter which makes this more complicated imo

It's for Demko to go home to Cali mostly
28 avr. 2023 à 13 h 51
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Modifié 28 avr. 2023 à 14 h 9
Quoting: TheLand
It's for Demko to go home to Cali mostly


Demko does not want to be traded. And if he did.....LA or Anaheim would not be his choice. He is from San Diego. Ask 99% of the people from there.....they hate the whole LA area. In fact, in a recent interview, he said exactly that.
29 avr. 2023 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: Dutchies
I think ANA jumps at this.........I'm not so sure VAN does......


No, we really don't, were happy to keep Gibson.
29 avr. 2023 à 13 h 40
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VAN Declines, include your 2023 1dt and they might listen


You should really try stand up comedy, because that was a hilarious take tears of joy
29 avr. 2023 à 13 h 59
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
No, we really don't, were happy to keep Gibson.


Dude, you get a goalie that's 2 years younger, on a deal that's shorter by a year and has a savings of 1.4M per year on cap hit. Gibson has regressed every year for the past 4. With exception of this year, Demko has gotten better every year, and this year was due to a poor start due to injury. ANA would be nuts to pass on this.
29 avr. 2023 à 14 h 9
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Quoting: Dutchies
Dude, you get a goalie that's 2 years younger, on a deal that's shorter by a year and has a savings of 1.4M per year on cap hit. Gibson has regressed every year for the past 4. With exception of this year, Demko has gotten better every year, and this year was due to a poor start due to injury. ANA would be nuts to pass on this.


We have our goalie of the future in Dostal, we don't have cap issues, and our "regressing" goalie was an all-star just last season, and the reason he was an all-star last season was he went into the all-star break with a 0.924 SV%. He's still got it, we just need to put a defense in front of him that doesn't give up 40+ SOG every single night. Demko isn't a need, barely qualifies as a want, so why throw picks at it?

The only reason you take this deal if you are Anaheim is if you believe he is cooked. You notice none of the Anaheim fans on here think that, because we can see he still easily passes the eye test. Yeah, his stats are bad, that happens to goalies when there is a beer league defense in front of them.
29 avr. 2023 à 15 h 16
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
We have our goalie of the future in Dostal, we don't have cap issues, and our "regressing" goalie was an all-star just last season, and the reason he was an all-star last season was he went into the all-star break with a 0.924 SV%. He's still got it, we just need to put a defense in front of him that doesn't give up 40+ SOG every single night. Demko isn't a need, barely qualifies as a want, so why throw picks at it?

The only reason you take this deal if you are Anaheim is if you believe he is cooked. You notice none of the Anaheim fans on here think that, because we can see he still easily passes the eye test. Yeah, his stats are bad, that happens to goalies when there is a beer league defense in front of them.


Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Gibson. But this also works in favor of Dostal, as it moves up his timeline a year. He's gonna need an increase this year on a bridge deal, and before Gibson is up, he'll most likely need a bigger UFA raise. It makes sense. Either way, ANA has to make some moves if they want to start competing
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 51
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
You should really try stand up comedy, because that was a hilarious take tears of joy


Really? Downgrading in net to an older player who's not as good with a higher cap hit all for a 2nd and 3rd? It would take a 2023 1st to get VAN to move Demko
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 53
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Really? Downgrading in net to an older player who's not as good with a higher cap hit all for a 2nd and 3rd? It would take a 2023 1st to get VAN to move Demko


Dream all you want man, the only way you are getting 1OA this year for Demko is if Petey is included as a sweetener.

Demko for Gibson + 1OA, man the drugs up in Vancouver must be good.
29 avr. 2023 à 21 h 58
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Dream all you want man, the only way you are getting 1OA this year for Demko is if Petey is included as a sweetener.

Demko for Gibson + 1OA, man the drugs up in Vancouver must be good.


i said a 1st rd pick, not 1st overall lol
29 avr. 2023 à 22 h 6
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i said a 1st rd pick, not 1st overall lol


You said our 1st round pick, and its the only one we have.

Quoting: TheRevanchist17
VAN Declines, include your 2023 1dt and they might listen


It's right there "your 2023 1st"
29 avr. 2023 à 22 h 33
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You said our 1st round pick, and its the only one we have.



It's right there "your 2023 1st"


and what makes you think it will be 1st overall?
29 avr. 2023 à 22 h 36
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and what makes you think it will be 1st overall?


Even if it was 3OA, which is the lowest it could possibly go, you wouldn't get it for Demko even if you had to eat Campbell and Peterson's goalie contracts coming back the other way.
 
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